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#1 LostInBrittany

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 15:41

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As much as I loved the Noodler's Liberty's Elysium ink, I wasn't 100% happy with its non-fully waterproofness, so last December I decided to continue my quest to find the perfect blue ink.

After watching a video about Noodler’s 54th Massachussets at Goulet Pens, I passed an order of a bottle of 54th M. and another of Noodler's Polar Blue. I will review the Polar Blue another day, today I wanted to speak about this wonderful and beautiful blue-black ink.

The only thing I don't fully love is color, a bit to dark for me. It's very (very!) saturated, with little shading, I guess I'm going to dilute it a bit next time to reduce saturation and see if it does some shading and a bluer color. It doesn't feathers, even on bad paper, and that's a big positive point for me (and Polar Blue and its Black sister, aren't great on that area). It's waterproofness is really stunning, as usual in Noodler's bulletproof inks (besides Liberty's Elysium). It flows good on my Noodler's Konrad, I had read it was somewhat dry or hard-starting, I haven't found it so.

Inks Review : Noodler's 54th Massachussets


In brief, I really like this ink, I only wish it was a bit bluer. Maybe I should try Noodler's Upper Ganges Blue next time...

As usual, I’ve also posted this review in my FP blog.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 15:44

A good review and I like this ink a lot too. I've a few other similar Noodler's colours and they all have their 'personal' slant on the same sort of colour. Even I can tell the difference!

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#3 LostInBrittany

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 15:47

Thanks!

I fully agree with you, every Noodler's color I've tested has been highly 'personal', they have all a personality, and I love that. I guess I'm a Noodler's fan...
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 16:33

Thanks for the review. I have been thinking about getting a bottle of 54th Mass., and your review convinced me. Your review is very complete and it also was fun to read. Thanks.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 17:14

<div style="float:right;"><img alt="LiB Stylo-plumes" src="http://www.lostinbri...s/lib_pens.png" /></div>

As much as I loved the <a href="http://libpens.org/2012/06/07/noodlers-libertys-elysium-ink/">Noodler's Liberty's Elysium</a> ink, I wasn't 100% happy with its non-fully <i>waterproofness</i>, so last December I decided to continue my quest to find the perfect blue ink.

After watching a video about <a href="http://www.inknouvea... 54<sup>th</sup> Massachussets</a> at <a href="http://gouletpens.com">Goulet Pens</a>, I passed an order of a bottle of 54<sup>th</sup> M. and another of <a href="http://www.gouletpens.com/Noodlers_Polar_Blue_Ink_4_5oz_p/n19805.htm">Noodler's Polar Blue</a>. I will review the Polar Blue another day, today I wanted to speak about this wonderful and beautiful blue-black ink.

The only thing I don't fully love is color, a bit to dark for me. It's very (very!) saturated, with little shading, I guess I'm going to dilute it a bit next time to reduce saturation and see if it does some shading and a bluer color. It doesn't feathers, even on bad paper, and that's a big positive point for me (and Polar Blue and its Black sister, aren't great on that area). It's <i>waterproofness</i> is really stunning, as usual in Noodler's bulletproof inks (besides Liberty's Elysium). It flows good on my Noodler's Konrad, I had read it was somewhat dry or hard-starting, I haven't found it so.

<div><a href="http://www.flickr.co...ny/8338545088/" title="Inks Review : Noodler's 54th Massachussets by LostInBrittany, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticf...396e6338_b.jpg" width="629" height="1024" alt="Inks Review : Noodler's 54th Massachussets"></a></div>

In brief, I really like this ink, I only wish it was a bit bluer. Maybe I should try <a href="http://www.gouletpens.com/Noodlers_Upper_Ganges_Blue_Ink_3oz_p/n20002.htm">Noodler's Upper Ganges Blue</a> next time...

As usual, I’ve also posted this review in <a href="http://libpens.org/2...ssetts-ink/">my FP blog</a>.



I have 6 different bottles of Noodler's including 54th Massachusetts, Liberty's Elysium, Ottoman Azure and Upper Ganges. I am kind of disappointed with Upper Ganges because I find it tend to fade to a lighter shade of blue after putting it on paper. Does anyone have similar experience with it? Try it and let us know what you think.

#6 LostInBrittany

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 22:12

Thanks for the review. I have been thinking about getting a bottle of 54th Mass., and your review convinced me. Your review is very complete and it also was fun to read. Thanks.


Thanks a lot for the compliment! Glad you liked it! :)

I have 6 different bottles of Noodler's including 54th Massachusetts, Liberty's Elysium, Ottoman Azure and Upper Ganges. I am kind of disappointed with Upper Ganges because I find it tend to fade to a lighter shade of blue after putting it on paper. Does anyone have similar experience with it? Try it and let us know what you think.


I will post a review when I will receive the Upper Ganges
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 14:48

I just picked up a bottle of this as well and really enjoy it. I normally only use black ink, but when I saw this ink and watched Nathan Tardif's video on it, I just had to have a bottle. I love the color of this ink and have been using it in my Noodler's Ahab and my Pilot Prera as an everyday ink and haven't missed my black ink at all. Also, I enjoyed reading your review. Well done!

Edited by heymatthew, 05 January 2013 - 14:49.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 17:23

I'm a big Noodler's fan too. If want a little more blue in your blue-black, try Noodler's Bad Blue Heron. I really love that color too. I have both 54th Mass, and Bad Blue Heron. I like them both. The Blue Heron is a great bulletproof blue-black blend with more blue's than the 54th. Nice color. I also have Noodlers's Liberty's Elysium and their Polar Blue. I'm not crazy about the Polar Blue. It tend to go on a really nice blue then dries to an ash blue with heavy feathering.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:58

I've got a sample of the 54th Mass. I love the color and the waterproofness. It did not like my Pilot 78G right away, though. It took a fair amount of cleaning to get this ink to flow decently. It works very well now.

I love seeing reviews like this where you can't even tell that water was applied to this ink. Really amazing stuff.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 23:24

Just today I received a bottle of 54th and a white Safari 1.1 Inked it up (after flushing with distilled water and a drop of dish soap), wrote a bit and water tested it. Could not be happier. Terrific color, nice flow and very water resistant - to the point that the printed lines on an Ampad gold tablet rubbed off but the ink stayed clear as a bell.

If you like this color, I don't think you will be disappointed.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:13

I'm another fan of this ink. I like the color as it provides a bit of character that a black or blue would not offer.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 13:17

I've been using this ink for the past month and like it very much. The combination of 54th Mass and a Pilot Metropolitan is hard to beat. I was traveling over the holidays and wrote all my postcards with this. Zero problems.

I also had it in a Monteverde Invincia with a stub nib. The first load of ink went through that pen fine, but with the second the pen had hard start problems. This could very well be the pen - I've flushed it and will load another ink to see if its the Monteverde feed that's acting up.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 14:02

Have you tried Bad Belted Kingfisher? Bluer and waterproof,too.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:22

Good review. But I would like a more blue ink. So, I have mixed 54th with Bad Blue Heron in various ratios ranging from 3:1 Bbh:54th to 2:1 54th:BBH. All ratios resulted in color that I liked better than either 54 th or BBH. So far I have not encountered any problems with these blends, and they are all waterproof.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 00:39

This is one of my favorites, too. I need to get a bottle.

Edit: Say, has anyone tried mixing a little of this with some Liberty's Elysium? That might give a more blue cast with slightly better waterproofing?

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:56

:hmm1:
I was interested in trying this when it first came out, but then a lot of the reviews seemed to show this with a greenish overcast to the color, which isn't what I wanted. But your review seems to show it as more of a straight blue-black. So now it's back on my radar again for the next time I have money to order ink samples....
Anyone know whether better paper would elicit more shading? Or make for slower dry times?
Also: @ jhataway -- could you post scans of your mixing results? Thanks.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:10

:hmm1:
I was interested in trying this when it first came out, but then a lot of the reviews seemed to show this with a greenish overcast to the color, which isn't what I wanted. But your review seems to show it as more of a straight blue-black. So now it's back on my radar again for the next time I have money to order ink samples....
Anyone know whether better paper would elicit more shading? Or make for slower dry times?
Also: @ jhataway -- could you post scans of your mixing results? Thanks.
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Here you have a sample on better paper (Rhodia Dot Pad) with a juicier nib (Platinum 3776 with Music nib), so you can see the shading. Drying time is almost the same. I fail to see the greenish overcast, but I'm not good finding color hints :)




Edit : hmmm, if I look at it again, I think I see some greenish tone... It's a bit like a greenish shading, and I don't see it when I use a F nib...

Edited by LostInBrittany, 22 January 2013 - 09:12.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 19:40

I bought this ink, partly based on your review. My preliminary tests show that it's a decent ink in terms of flow, resistance to feathering and bleed-through, but it's just so opaque, especially when dry, it looks like dry mud. Your scans show that it has more color (greenish, blueish), but mine is dark, chalky gray. I am a little disappointed.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 19:56

Your scans show that it has more color (greenish, blueish), but mine is dark, chalky gray.


I do think the color is quite muted, and the first scan shows this clearly, IMO. In general I've noticed that my scanner shows blues as more vibrant than they appear to my naked eye. To get a hint of what my scanner shows, I have to use a magnifier and view the ink under full-spectrum white light like the ambient light in my window office during the day (rather than at night with the compact-fluorescent that I use on my desk lamp--note to self: think about a desk lamp that will let me see ink colors better at night). The scan of the ink just above on Rhodia using a music nib on a Platinum 3776 is showing you some of the variation that is inherent with different pens and paper. What color there is in this ink shows up where it is deposited more thinly, so a pen which delivers a wide but not over-wet line will show the most color, whereas a pen which delivers a very wet, saturated line will show the color very sparingly. I had a writing sample with it using a relatively wet pen, and I showed it to a couple of folks who didn't know what it was. I simply asked them to identify the color of the ink. One said (dark) green. The other said bluish-greenish. In both cases I'm certain they came to a conclusion only by looking at the parts of strokes that were least saturated.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:01

I have a bottle of 54th and use it every day. I've inked up my Lamy Safari, Cross Townsend, and most impressively in writing terms, my Parker 51 (all fine nibs). I get great shading and pretty quick drying time, even on my Rhodia R-series paper. It gives great character to my writing and is much "cooler" than the black my colleagues use in their ball points or Pilot G-2s.

What I also love about so many of Noodlers' inks are the incredible art work on the labels. It really makes you want to show them off on your desk. 54th has great art work as does Noodlers Libtery's and even Purple Heart.

Awesome review! Thanks!

P.S. Nathan Tardif's and Brian Goulet's video review are great too if anyone out there wants more.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 03:15

I'm a huge fan of 54th! I love the label, and it was the first bottle I bought when I got into fountain pens. I find it to be fairly quick drying, even when used in my pens ranging from a 1.5mm italic to a EF. It's color also seems to remain very consistent across pens.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 05:26

I just picked up a bottle of this as well and really enjoy it. I normally only use black ink, but when I saw this ink and watched Nathan Tardif's video on it, I just had to have a bottle. I love the color of this ink and have been using it in my Noodler's Ahab and my Pilot Prera as an everyday ink and haven't missed my black ink at all. Also, I enjoyed reading your review. Well done!


heymatthew - being someone coming from a "black" background - do you find 54th Mass dark enough to almost become a replacement for black? Or would you still want to keep a black ink around in addition to 54th?

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 19:44

...coming from a "black" background - do you find 54th Mass dark enough to almost become a replacement for black? Or would you still want to keep a black ink around in addition to 54th?


I really enjoy 54th Mass. ink, almost to the point of forsaking my Noodler's Black. But it's no replacement for black. However, I have mixed this ink with black ink for a nice blue-black combination that is waterproof and dark.

I've also made it a lighter blue by mixing it with Pilot Blue or with Noodler's Upper Ganges Blue/

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 15:57

Cross post:

I'm losing all patience with Noodlers 54th Mass. It gums up my nibs and feeds. Total killer to clean.

Biggest problem is that it is a hard starter, at times it even dries in the feed so quickly that it'll skip during writing a sentence, and you can be assured that it will skip if I pause for even 2 or 3 seconds. Ive even tried a 4:1 (ink:water) dilution as recommend in another thread.

Cleaning is one thing but not writing well is a deal breaker.

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 16:14

jayh, yep, mine does all that too up unless diluted but works a treat when it is. Sorry to hear that diluting hasn't helped.  :(

 

Such a gorgeous colour.



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 06:21

I've been finding inconsistency with the 54th Mass. Sometimes it will be a dark blue grey color (if I shake up the bottle) and other times when I DONT shake the bottle, it's a very dark blue. The "eternal" aspect of the ink is the only thing that is making me hold on to it dearly in my vanishing point until I can find another one that's similar to it (I use it for clinical and handwritten notes).



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 15:23

Oddly, I tried a sample of it last summer, and the teal-ish tone grew on me.  So I bought a full bottle, and it's obviously from another batch -- it's a *lot* bluer (more like a darker version of Upper Ganges Blue, which was a bit light and chalky for my taste).  So I like the color of the bottled version of 54th MA actually *more* than I did originally for the sample.  But the inconsistency between batches is starting to make me nuts.  I know that Nathan's kinda a one-man operation, but still....

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 16:37

You'll find that Upper Ganges Blue to be a very pale blue when dry.

 

The Warden Series inks are all unique in that they will somewhat run with water and then dry in strange looking ways to show that there was an attempt at forgery. Also, Nathan deliberately makes each bottle of certain inks slightly different and keeps documentation of it, in case the police ever need it. Why he feels the need beats me...unless this story is a way to cover his own process variations. :D



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 16:59

One of my favorites.  I used it to sign and address Christmas cards, due to its waterproof character.



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 23:31

It used to hard start in one of my pens, so now I use it 4:1 ink:water and it works wonderfully.