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#1 seymour

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:21

Hi

I noticed that this dealer had a number of very standard looking Watermans. The auctions started at 0.01 Euro, but the postage was absurd. On the one above, he wanted 429.99 Euro for shipping to Israel!

Can anybody explain what the guy is up to?

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#2 JonSzanto

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:40

A link would have been helpful, but without bothering to go look it up, I'd say he's fishing for idiots. I mean, doesn't that shipping charge just completely tip you off that this is not a seller to be trusted?
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#3 lovemy51

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 09:40

that ebayer doesn't have anything for sale at this time... ???!!!
http://myworld.ebay.com/m_knight1979
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#4 Chrissy

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:56

Hi

I noticed that this dealer had a number of very standard looking Watermans. The auctions started at 0.01 Euro, but the postage was absurd. On the one above, he wanted 429.99 Euro for shipping to Israel!

Can anybody explain what the guy is up to?

Chaim

It's an old fraudulent listing technique and has been banned by ebay for years now. You can try reporting them under 'account security > seller is attempting to avoid paying fees' but it's a toss up whether ebay will actually do anything.

If I wanted the pen and was the unlucky winner, I would wait until the pen arrived then report him to ebay. That way ebay would take action against the seller and would probably refund any shipping price over what it actually cost to ship and pack it.

Edited by Chrissy, 24 December 2012 - 11:00.

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#5 hari317

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:00

that ebayer doesn't have anything for sale at this time... ???!!!
http://myworld.ebay.com/m_knight1979

he had somethings for sale:

http://www.ebay.com/...omplete=1&rt=nc

#6 lovemy51

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:44


that ebayer doesn't have anything for sale at this time... ???!!!
http://myworld.ebay.com/m_knight1979

he had somethings for sale:

http://www.ebay.com/...omplete=1&rt=nc

oh, gee! it didn't show when i checked :unsure: :hmm1: ... thanx, hari!


edited: still not popping up any sales when i check with my link than click on "see other items"... no matter...

the shipping is reasonable if you live on Mars!

Edited by lovemy51, 24 December 2012 - 11:48.

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#7 Aysedasi

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 14:26

But he does have 100% feedback....... :hmm1:

Edited by Aysedasi, 24 December 2012 - 14:26.


#8 iamchum

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 15:24

this sort of thing throws off my bay trawling techniques :angry: using price as one of my filters.

Yeah... I don't know about the ratings system anymore :( Logically there is no reason to distrust them, but I have had several instances in the last year where I have been let down despite 99+% ratings from sellers.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 20:54

If someone is going to try to cheat eBay, it stands to reason they will do the same to you.

A red flag is a red flag.

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#10 stevesurf

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 23:51

But he does have 100% feedback....... :hmm1:


To be safer, I generally buy from sellers that might have the following characteristics:

1. Fast reply to questions
2. High percentage rating (does not need to be perfectly 100%)
3. High rating (1000's preferable, but >200 ok)
4. Great written feedback consistently over time
5. Has sold other items as high a value (or greater) that you are buying


So, it's not just about having a 100% rating, as it is very easy to get negative feedback that does not indicate your selling habits.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:31

The seller has sold items with the shipping being the buy-it-now price. In November is seemed like proper auctions and now in December it's the "odd" way of doing it.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:32

If you had a dispute with this seller and wanted a refund, would you get the shipping cost back?
It seems like a nice way (for the seller) of getting out from having to refund the money on defective or otherwise unsatisfactory merchandise. The item cost only a penny...
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#13 hari317

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:36

In case of a return due to item being not as described, the buyer is fully covered for the original transaction value. i.e. item plus shipping price. Return shipping is on the buyer as per ebay.