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#31 Wheatflower

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 18:10

Amazing. I am informed and impressed. Thank you!



I reckon this thread will eventually show up high in the Google search results for this pen.


My (very scanty) knowledge on the topic says that this can be hastened if those of us with blogs or online journals post links to it. I know I intend to do so!
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 18:58

This is the best article I have read in a very long time.
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 19:36

Thanks Brandon for an invaluable contribution. Awesome review, great research, well written and nicely presented. As an owner of a first generation Lamy 2000, I can say I love the pen even more now that I've read your review! :thumbup:
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 21:13

By the way, to add to this review's completeness, the 2000 had a pen stand, the Lamy HW69, an acrylic cube that holds two Lamy 2000 pens and giving the illusion that you've placed them frozen in an ice cube. These are really rare now.

If I recall correctly, there is also a black and steel version, as well.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 22:44

Very interesting read. Thanks for putting so much work into it.

I've been thinking of getting a 2000M, but would like to handle one first. I think Bruce-YVR will be getting one, though, so that'll give me the opportunity.
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 23:04

Seriously amazing work.

Now, if only there was a Lamy forum where this could be pinned...Oh wait, there is.


If you're going to put this on FP geeks, I think it deserves to be a full fledged article, or series of articles!

Edited by raging.dragon, 13 August 2012 - 23:04.


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Posted 14 August 2012 - 03:32

What a review!
Like the Lamy 2000, this review raises the bar and becomes the benchmark of what other reviews will be measured by.


Makes me want to reach for one of my Lamy 2000s and start writing.....

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 05:50

Wow. This is a humbling review.

Research is fun when you're actually researching something you love.

I did want to point out though, there are a few typos in Part 5, specifically in the quote from the Lamy booklet for the Edition 2000.

We are (or should be) grateful to have people like you in our community who simply love collecting information and thinking and analyzing critically, not because you have to, but just for the sake of scholarship itself. My proverbial hat is off to you, my friend.
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Posted 14 August 2012 - 07:05

This was a pleasure to read. What a terrific piece of work.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 14:56

Superb work! We always say 'Oh Lamy - very Bauhaus, very modernist', but very few of us could quote sources the way you do here. And the comparison with Braun designs was new to me. (I wonder if anyone's done a Moholy-Nagy source compendium for the P51 - another Bauhaus link?)

Of course you've got me in trouble now as I realise there are even more variations of the wonderful Lamy 2000 out there. I personally like the Taxus a lot - I don't usually like wood pens, but the combination of warm wood colour and classical cool lines is one that I find very appealing.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 16:25

Thanks, terrific article!

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 18:46

Excellent ! Zowwy, you did alot of work. The 2000 is one of my favorite users Much appreciated. :notworthy1:

Addendum:
Thank you for the section on the bauhaus/Lamy/Braun etc. Really adds to the knowledge base and my enjoyment of the article, and my pen. Reminds me of my reading about Henry Dreyfus designs (Skyliner FP, Waring blender, the Bell rotary desk phone, Yellow Cab, 20th Century limited Pan Am flying boat (interior)etc.) :thumbup:

Edited by Moynihan, 14 August 2012 - 21:18.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 19:24

Great work, very comprehensive - worthy of the best encyclopaedia.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 20:39

Superb work! We always say 'Oh Lamy - very Bauhaus, very modernist', but very few of us could quote sources the way you do here. And the comparison with Braun designs was new to me. (I wonder if anyone's done a Moholy-Nagy source compendium for the P51 - another Bauhaus link?)

Of course you've got me in trouble now as I realise there are even more variations of the wonderful Lamy 2000 out there. I personally like the Taxus a lot - I don't usually like wood pens, but the combination of warm wood colour and classical cool lines is one that I find very appealing.


I've always liked the Bauhaus, Art Deco, or Mid-Century Modern styles executed in or combined with wood. For example, a photo I recall of chrome and black leather furniture in log home. The modern style can be cold and impersonal, using wood gives it a touch warmth.

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 02:25

That is a truly amazing review! Congratulations on all the hard work. I was about to provide a review on the 2000 ballpoint, pencil, and fountain pen but I doubt if I can find much to add. I'll need to reread this again.
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Posted 15 August 2012 - 02:32

Hush, you! The value of FPN is our diversity of opinions and approaches. We don't have nearly enough on the 2000 family; of the Lamy 2000 threads on this site, very few are on non-FP models. I, for one, would love to read what you have to say on the BP, MP, and FP.

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 07:29

Because of your article I blasted $253.25 on 2 Lamy 2000s!!!!!!
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 14:24

That is a truly amazing review! Congratulations on all the hard work. I was about to provide a review on the 2000 ballpoint, pencil, and fountain pen but I doubt if I can find much to add. I'll need to reread this again.
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I placed a review on the Lamy L2k Ballpoint Pen and Mechanical Pencil which I hope you enjoy. Your post and kind thoughts were an inspiration.
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 00:21

Thank you again for your very kind feedback and for validating my geekdom. So far no tl;dr posts!

Here's an outtake from the photo shoot, in the spirit of goodguy and Zuzik's reviews of the MB Writer's Series (this is for you, p2p). Smudge likes the 2000M!

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I'm now somewhat distraught to find that not all Lamys are perfect. I confess I was ignorant to "all the complaints" about the 2000 nibs. Aargh, will the search for the perfect pen never end??

We are all imperfect vessels, even the venerable Lamy 2000, alas!

Great work, very comprehensive - worthy of the best encyclopaedia.

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I've been thinking of getting a 2000M, but would like to handle one first. I think Bruce-YVR will be getting one, though, so that'll give me the opportunity.

You should do! By the way, you were one of the early 2000 recommenders when I first joined a few years back, so thanks for that. :thumbup:

I did want to point out though, there are a few typos in Part 5, specifically in the quote from the Lamy booklet for the Edition 2000.

:gaah: Darn! My mother is a quilter, and she says real quilters intentionally put in a mistake to stave off a real error. Let's just pretend that's what I was going for here. Thanks for pointing it out all the same. :thumbup:

(I wonder if anyone's done a Moholy-Nagy source compendium for the P51 - another Bauhaus link?)

Uh-oh. Not another article idea.

Thank you for the section on the bauhaus/Lamy/Braun etc. Really adds to the knowledge base and my enjoyment of the article, and my pen. Reminds me of my reading about Henry Dreyfus designs (Skyliner FP, Waring blender, the Bell rotary desk phone, Yellow Cab, 20th Century limited Pan Am flying boat (interior)etc.) :thumbup:

Yes, this was really fun to research. As I mentioned above, I'm a big fan of Müller and really enjoyed trying to fit the pieces together on him and his influence. I'm just waiting for a real design authority to come in and rip me to shreds, though.

Because of your article I blasted $253.25 on 2 Lamy 2000s!!!!!!

I saw nothing. I know nothing!

Edited by bphollin, 17 August 2012 - 00:22.


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Posted 17 August 2012 - 00:39

Wowee! Top-notch research! I'm still on the fence with the design of the 2000 but I have a new appreciation for it all thanks to all your hard work. Thank you!

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:43

great review

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 13:11

What a wonderful and thorough review, thanks! :)

Btw. one typo though, Kandinsky misses an 'i' (Kandnsky).
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 14:07

What a well reserached, well written review. So good one even thinks it was too short!

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 13:45

I’ve never been into Lamy design that much to get one and only recently I’ve brought myself to order a Lamy Studio. I’m still unsure about Lamy 2000, though.
Nevertheless, I very much enjoyed reading your well-put and thorough write-up. Excellent work. :clap1:

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 14:21

Do advice on cleaning and ink filling of the Lamy Safari and the Al Star Fountain pens !

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 15:00

This review is remarkable with design insights,especially comparison to Braun designs, inclusion of dissembling video, loads of photos of each part! Wonderful.
Truly a milestone in review section. A approach!
Congratulations!
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 20:58

What a great resource for us L2K owners! Thank you so much for a wonderful read.

Can this thread be pinned in the Lamy sub-forum? (oops... uh, never mind)
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 20:59

Can this thread be pinned in the Lamy sub-forum? (oops... uh, never mind)


It is. You're just not looking in the right spot.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 20:25

How could anyone even think of writing such a review!!!.... :notworthy1: :notworthy1: :notworthy1:

Today following the link in the review, I completely disassembled my Lamy 2000 and assembled it again by just using my fingers!!! I do not understand why is there much fuss about TWSBI 540 being easy-to-disassemble pen. That said, of course, I like TWSBI too.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 16:33

Exhaustive and captivating!

Thank you so much!


Lamy was my first, all those years ago, and looking back, the Bauhaus design is what attracted me to it. After owning several models I settled on the Persona as the keeper.

Wait, there is all those limited edition 2000 bps and the 2000 ball desk set still hanging around.


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