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#1 wimg

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 19:53

Hi folks,

As promised, finally a written review of Noodler's Cayenne, with a variety of nibs:

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I found the differences caused by different nibs rather eye-opening. Never noticed these differences this clearly before!

Warm regards, Wim

Edited by wimg, 08 November 2010 - 23:03.
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Posted 27 April 2005 - 20:23

I see no pictures...

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 20:28

I see no pictures...

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I just saw them a couple of minutes ago. But now they're gone???

It was a great review!

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 20:31

Hi Keith,

Strange that, I'll check what is going on. It was fine, but now I don't see the pictures anymore either.

I'll report back...

Wim

Edit: I think it was a temporary dip; it is all back again...

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 20:58

wonderful! I'll have to get more disciplined and do some reviews with different pens. That is really nice, Wim. Thanks!

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 21:02

wonderful!  I'll have to get more disciplined and do some reviews with different pens.  That is really nice, Wim. Thanks!

Hi KCat,

Thank you for the kind words.

I have started doing ink reviews with a variety of nibs, because people always say how different it looks from their ink samples :D. I reckoned with a variety of nibs, you would just be able to see the possibilities, and I must admit, I am quite amazed myself :D.

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 00:53

Wow, that's amazing. All those variations from one pen! Maybe there's hope for a couple of my (I think) less attractive inks, after all. Thanks for sharing that!
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Posted 28 April 2005 - 07:29

Hi Vanessa,

Wow, that's amazing.  All those variations from one pen!  Maybe there's hope for a couple of my (I think) less attractive inks, after all.  Thanks for sharing that!

Sorry, I am getting a little confused. Do you mean the variation/shading with the medium wet nibs? Or did you mean ink instead of pen?
I used a total of 7 pens in the review, of which 4 were dip pens, 3 fountain pens of which 1 has a dual nib, sharpish italic BB on one side, and medium stub reversed. So, actually, 8 different nibs (although I wrote very little with 3 of them).

TIA, warm regards, Wim

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 11:50

Sigh - from the Mad Dutchman's excellent sample above
we learn that it is of no use whatsoever trying to discuss
the colour of an fp ink -- unless we use the same nib :-),
the same paper, the same hand pressure, the same...

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 12:32

I suspect that this is impossible, but could we include ink flow/clog properties into ink reviews, ie i hear bad things about certain inks clogging feeds etc, and even sometimes damaging pens due to ph value.
Perhaps theres already a definitive list but considering the sheer number of pen variety and inks available I doubt this.
Really it's because I'm keen to try inks other than the manufacturers in my pens, but im afraid to clog them up.


p.s. thanks for the review it was brill

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 13:03

Wim,
GREAT review! Thanks. Based on a previous recommendation of yours, I have recently acquired a bottle of the same :D . . . although I have yet to load a pen up with it - still breaking them in with WM . . . but looking forward to it. Thanks again for a great review.
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Posted 28 April 2005 - 16:40

Sigh - from the Mad Dutchman's excellent sample above
we learn that it is of no use whatsoever trying to discuss
the colour of an fp ink -- unless we use the same nib :-),
the same paper, the same hand pressure, the same...

Maybe we'll have to resort to the standard Q-Tip swab technique that Greg uses...

Q-Tips should be standard...:rolleyes:

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 20:34

Hi Claes,

Sigh - from the Mad Dutchman's excellent sample above
we learn that it is of no use whatsoever trying to discuss
the colour of an fp ink -- unless we use the same nib :-),
the same paper, the same hand pressure, the same...

No such need, I think. Just get out a bunch of pens with different nibs and different flow characteristics, and show off the versatility of the particular ink. The range and depth of the variation in hue and density gives at least some idea of what to expect, which is why I tried so many nibs and pens :D.

And thanks for the kind words!

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 20:41

Hi Joe,

I suspect that this is impossible, but could we include ink flow/clog properties into ink reviews, ie i hear bad things about certain inks clogging feeds etc, and even sometimes damaging pens due to ph value.

This is possible, but would take an extensive testing time, and specialised equipment too.

Perhaps theres already a definitive list but considering the sheer number of pen variety and inks available I doubt this.

There is such a list. Here it is: Inks list

Really it's because I'm keen to try inks other than the manufacturers in my pens, but im afraid to clog them up.

No need to be afraid. Just make sure you flush and rinse the pen, before you take it out of rotation. Do the same prior to changing inks, so the inks don't react with each other. And finally, every month or so do a flush and rinse, if you want to feel really assured.
Anyway, the pH-list on the indicated web site should give you some ideas.

p.s. thanks for the review it was brill

Thank you for the kind words!

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 20:46

Maybe we'll have to resort to the standard Q-Tip swab technique that Greg uses...

Q-Tips should be standard...:rolleyes:

Hi Gerry,

Booooorrriiiinnnnggg! :lol:

But seriously: this is why I used the enormous wide monster nib, to show a "swab" like effect. The problem with swabs is that it depends on pressure, amount of ink absorbed, etc. as well, so that isn't a reliable technique either.
Generally, I find Greg's samples to be much darker than the ink in real life, and it is a single sample only.

And I just like fiddling with lots of different pens and nibs, too, which for me is one of the best reasons to do an ink review this way :lol:.

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 20:49

Sheeezzz... I see a standard for sampling is going to be born :D

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 21:03

Hi Denis,

Sheeezzz... I see a standard for sampling is going to be born :D

Going to be born? I thought it was born, with the review of Noodler's Red Black earlier... this was just a little fine-tuning :lol:.

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 23:23

Fantastic review Wim. I'm amazed at the different colours with different nibs etc. Terrific.
Thanks very much.


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Posted 29 April 2005 - 04:49

Sorry, I am getting a little confused. Do you mean the variation/shading with the medium wet nibs? Or did you mean ink instead of pen?
I used a total of 7 pens in the review, of which 4 were dip pens, 3 fountain pens of which 1 has a dual nib, sharpish italic BB on one side, and medium stub reversed. So, actually, 8 different nibs (although I wrote very little with 3 of them).


Wim, I am disappointed. Where are your mind-reading skills? Your xray vision that can see through any typo to the intended meaning of the written word? :lol: :D

I meant, all that variation with one ink, and not all that variation with one pen. I was surprised at the way the ink looks so different depending on the pen in which its used.

Sorry for my typo. :)
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Posted 29 April 2005 - 18:01

Hi Vanessa,

Sorry I misunderstood you :D. I was afraid so, but just wanted to make sure it was just me :D. Sorry the batteries ran out on my xray-vision :D. Fortunately, I am mad, so I am allowed to :lol:.

I was surprised at the way the ink looks so different depending on the pen in which its used.

And isn´t great? With every new ink you get, you get in effect a whole new bunch of pens... :D

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Posted 30 April 2005 - 03:57

Sorry the batteries ran out on my xray-vision

Batteries? You mean, you don't have special xray eyeglasses??? :)

Yes, I really do like the idea of having a whole bunch of different pens with one ink... maybe my Monaco Red/Brown/Burnt Sienna will benefit from this! Ditto with the Swisher's Apricot Orange.
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Posted 30 April 2005 - 15:43

The factors that go into how a certain ink appears on paper are many:

type of nib-determines line.
rate of flow (feed)-determines amount of ink delivered to paper.
paper - finish of paper affects flow, performance of pen, and absorption.
temperature- affects evaporation rate.
humidity-affects rate of evaporation.
writing pressure and speed -affects quantity of ink delivered.

So even if we all use a q-tip to swab ink we will all need to be using the same paper and work in similar environments.

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Posted 30 April 2005 - 19:40

Hi Vanessa,

Sorry the batteries ran out on my xray-vision

Batteries? You mean, you don't have special xray eyeglasses??? :)

Nah, built into my genetical make-up :lol:. But the bio-eco-batteries do have to be charged every now and then. Generally, a nice cuppa will do the trick :D.

Yes, I really do like the idea of having a whole bunch of different pens with one ink... maybe my Monaco Red/Brown/Burnt Sienna will benefit from this! Ditto with the Swisher's Apricot Orange.

Oooooh... I think you will have to partake in the KCat Vial Ink Exchange Programme :lol:. I wouldn't mind trying it out.

Better make a list of all of my inks :D.

Warm regards, Wim

Edited by wimg, 30 April 2005 - 19:40.

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 05:11

Great review, Wim! (I just read it today)
It's hard to believe that different pens produced such variety in shading with the same ink :o
I guess it's just another factor to take into account when choosing an ink---the fact that different nibs may produce different shades. Interesting stuff! Thanks for such a detailed review :)
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Posted 03 May 2005 - 11:16

Better make a list of all of my inks :D.

Do you have enough time? That could take weeks!

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 20:14

Hi Maja,

Great review, Wim! (I just read it today)
It's hard to believe that different pens produced such variety in shading with the same ink :o
I guess it's just another factor to take into account when choosing an ink---the fact that different nibs may produce different shades. Interesting stuff! Thanks for such a detailed review :)

Thanks for the kind words!
I must say it is a lot of fun doing a review like this, and very therapeutic too. Great escape from the hectic work life :D.

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 20:18

Hi Elaine,

Better make a list of all of my inks :D.

Do you have enough time? That could take weeks!

Nah, it isn't that bad, at least I don't think so :D.

Elaine (missing our chats)

Yes, me too. But whenever I check in, no one is there, but me.. :(

I'll keep on checking...

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