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Posted 28 June 2014 - 17:54

Im hoping these wont be too big  0627141258a.jpg       0627141252.jpg


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Posted 28 June 2014 - 19:03

I can see now those pieces inside are the dividers inside the pen tray area. The wood that is upright looks to be too thick it should be very thin about 1/16 of an inch. I get replacement wood from a model shop it can be cut with a sharp pair of scissors. There should be grooves in the front and sides for it to slot into.

This picture shows the grooves in one of my slopes

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IMG_1538 by my0771, on Flickr

As you can see they do not always go right to the bottom

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IMG_4927 by my0771, on Flickr

If you look on the inside edge there is an extra piece of wood this is what the writing surface sits on.

I hope that helps if you have any questions please ask.

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Posted 28 June 2014 - 22:44

there is writing on one of the dividers, the large one with a handle "In a land of fear and discord John William's love...." Im unable to decipher the rest cuz it's been rubbed out but there is more to it so just love that bit. The little pieces are the same thickness as the big one. I can only see one mark where wood might have been attatched, on the left side of my pic there's a scuff in that corner. Without the wood that is glued on, the panel on top would flop down, but the space it creates is still too wide for the handle piece. So Im not sure where any of it goes but it is glued to the bottom half of the box


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 14:32

If you look at the second picture I posted there is a long centre compartment this is where pens would be kept sometimes they have a lid that is what you have the lid.

Someone has replaced the insides with heavier wood.

If it has been glued in with modern glue it will be very difficult to remove.

It might be possible to put another thin piece inside that thicker piece to allow you to fit inkwell slots and a pen tray.

I hope that makes sense.

Your Armoire looks fantastic btw

 

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Edited by my63, 29 June 2014 - 14:35.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 16:33

Thank you for all your help Micheal! Given it's sentimental value and my inexperience with woodworking Im scared to ruin it trying. The glue is 25 years old, my dad put it in, does that count as a modern glue? What do you reccomend to keep t from cracking? The top is starting to 'wrinkle' and I'd like to halt that. Thank you for the compliment on the Armoire, I just finished a little Secretary to match it ;) 


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 19:21

From what I can see I cannot tell if it is a paint finish or some sort of transfer.

It may well be the wood drying out underneath the top finish that is causing the cracking.

If you want my advice as it is a family piece I would suggest that you contact an expert local to you I would hate to give you information that would spoil such an heirloom.

 

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 20:24

0627141258.jpg     I hope this is a better pic, my fon isnt the best. Im guessing it's a decal or decoupage because there is a crackle finish on it and nowhere else, and where the crack is, it is beige like there's paper underneath. I do appreciate all your advice you've given, thanks so much!


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Posted 19 October 2014 - 17:37

It is some time since I did any work on a writing slope although I have a number waiting for restoration.

A friend asked me to obtain a writing slope for her and carry out some minor modifications such as making trays for the inside of the drawer. 

Having learned from other projects rather than two trays I am making four, this means trays can be removed without pulling the drawer all of the way out.

 

14954550713_2718b2dac7_z.jpgIMG_8825 by my0771, on Flickr

 

15551010976_8eb176a873_z.jpgIMG_8826 by my0771, on Flickr

 

I have started in the same way I do for all of my boxes four pieces of wood mitred at each end I then placed them end to end and fixed them together using masking tape.

We now have one long piece glue is applied to each joint and finally the whole thing is folded up and the final joint is taped in place.

 

The next stage is to make a slot in the bottom of each frame to take the base but that is for another day



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Posted 20 October 2014 - 18:37

Today I have cut and shaped the bases they are currently clamped in the frames I have started making the inserts for the trays.

A piece of card which I marked for each frame before I glued the bottom pieces in place,

 

I also cut 9 pieces of dowel to size and glued them to the base card 

 

15396992079_7c2219a199_z.jpgIMG_8846_1 by my0771, on Flickr

 

Once fixed in place I did a trial fit into one of the trays

 

15397498638_47987eb09e_z.jpgIMG_8848_1 by my0771, on Flickr

 

The next step is to ..............................

 

Thanks for looking

 

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 07:18

The first two trays are complete two more to do

 

15400856250_757e138163_z.jpgIMG_8852_1 by my0771, on Flickr

 

I did have a small issue with one of the trays warping once the clamps were removed I have had this problem before and the best solution is to make up a solution of water and pva glue clamp the tray to a surface that it will not stick to, then paint the inside of the tray with the pva solution and leave for 24 hours,  

 

Once all four are complete I will darken the oak a little so it does not look as new then I will add the inserts 

 

Thanks for looking

 

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 21:49

The upper trays are now complete I will wax them after a final sanding then I can start with the suede


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IMG_8857_1 by my0771, on Flickr

As with the lower trays I have left a little room for expansion

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 13:20

Lovely! Super excited.

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Posted 26 October 2014 - 17:51

The trays have now dried without warping too much.

The next stage is to start forming the backing card for the suede.

 

Step one is to measure and cut the card to the correct width.

 

15013930533_328eff1c6c_z.jpgIMG_8889_1 by my0771, on Flickr

 

Step two

 

Rub a damp sponge over the card and place it into the tray on top of the card and dowels I used the two larger dowels to make the card form to the desired shape 

 

15634113225_6fa42247f0_z.jpgIMG_8891_1 by my0771, on Flickr

 

Step three

 

Allow to dry before trimming

 

15610401666_b8295bc864_z.jpgIMG_8894_1 by my0771, on Flickr

 

I wont trim the length until the suede is fitted

 

Repeat 4 times

 

Thanks for looking

 

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 16:07

I have started applying the suede to the card there were two choices of colour I have chosen the lilac it is very soft and a nice pale colour it looks good with the oak

 

15642617075_7f6e8af9ed_z.jpgIMG_8897_1 by my0771, on Flickr

 

There are a few more steps before the trays are complete



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Posted 27 October 2014 - 20:52

I wanted to share the process  I use to make the inserts for my pen trays.

 

The suede has been cut to size (that sounds like I have a team of helpers)  :lol: Just me and the three four dogs Holly our foster dog  is still here neither of them is much help though.

 

15642054681_11db93e394_z.jpgIMG_8901_1 by my0771, on Flickr

 

Here the suede is placed on top of the card the suede is then rolled up on the dowel glue is then applied to the card and the suede is then rolled over the card and pressed into place.

 

15458107849_9a97afc9cb_z.jpgIMG_8908_1 by my0771, on Flickr

 

The next step is to join the two insert pieces together 

 

Thanks for looking

 

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 21:17

Thanks for sharing!

 

Best Wishes,

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 22:29

awesome!!!


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 12:41

Looks great Michael.
I love watching these builds. You make these trays look so easy. One of these days I will try my hand at it.
Is that regular white glue you are using to hold down the suede?

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 13:44

Thanks David and Kate

 

Darrin it is white pva standard woodworkers glue I usually buy the one that says leather on the label along with wood.

I usually apply the glue thinly and wait until it is almost dry before I place the leather on top, if you use a heavier suede or leather you can do away with the backing card.

Any questions just ask

 

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 17:43

Elle's writing slope is a beautiful thing however there are one or two things I asked if I could put right before sending it on to its new home.

 

It will also give you an idea of my sickness

 

For some reason two pieces of light wood have been glued into the bottom of the ink wells, those who are observant will also notice that the grain of the wood is also in the wrong direction.

 

15499063377_519cba9930_z.jpgIMG_8914_1 by my0771, on Flickr

 

The ideal solution is to replace the incorrect wood with more appropriate wood however this is not possible as it is glued in place.

My solution was to take two small pieces of wood of the correct type for this slope it is Cedar I stained it the correct colour and cut it to the correct size.

 

15499066517_16eaa7449e_z.jpgIMG_8916_1 by my0771, on Flickr

 

I have not glued them down they are a push fit so they may be removed if required.

 

 

Thanks for looking

 

Michael


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 17:47

Most writing slopes have a pen tray in the centre of the ink well area it rests on two strips fixed to the inside which creates a semi secret area,

 

This slope has a nice piece of mahogany instead of its pen tray I have been searching for a pen tray long enough for this slope without success so I decided to make one.

 

15498407249_7b3004ee80_z.jpgIMG_8918_1 by my0771, on Flickr

 

 

 

Pen trays are always very light I cut a piece of oak to the correct size and found it was way too heavy so I took a pen tray from another slope and had a close look at it.

It is made from a soft wood and stained to look like oak I am not too good with stain so I will veneer my version

 

15498892238_dd1e8f4ede_z.jpgIMG_8924_1 by my0771, on Flickr

 

This is the halfway point the shaping is almost complete a bit more sanding to obtain the correct shape and then add the veneer

 

I will include the mahogany piece with my replacement so the owner has a choice 

 

 

 

Thanks for looking

 

 

 

Michael


Edited by my63, 02 November 2014 - 17:53.


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Posted 05 November 2014 - 14:13

I have to admit I used a power sander to shape the curve,  

 

15096827864_85a7c80366_z.jpgIMG_8937_1 by my0771, on Flickr

 

Having shaped the curve I added some nice light cherry veneer

 

15096828654_81cba96dec_z.jpgIMG_8938_1 by my0771, on Flickr

 

it just needs some wax

 

Thanks for looking

 

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Posted 05 November 2014 - 15:17

Dear Michael,

 

Like so many other members of this board, I have been eargerly following your posts in this thread. I can only say that you are very good not only at restoring writing slopes and bags etc. but also at infecting other people with your enthusiasm. And it seems that I am the next 'victim' of that enthusiasm: I have just bought my very first slope. It looks like this:

 

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The main problem is that the underside of the box has slightly warped, causing the box not to close any more. There is also a quite big crack in the lid that, I suppose, has been caused by closing the box despite the warping. It doesn't seems that the lid can be fixed without removing the veneer. The inside of the box has been lined with what seems to be wall paper and it will certainly take some effort to remove it.

 

Since I have to finish my dissertation, I will only start with the restoration in a couple of months. But I couldn't resist posting some pictures right away!

 

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Posted 05 November 2014 - 16:04

Looks great Micheal!! Congrats on finding your first slope Stephen! It looks wonderful too!


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Posted 05 November 2014 - 19:47

Thanks Kate I am sure we are due an update on your adventures.

Welcome Steven I used to watch an American tv show called dirty money with Jimmy Di Reista and his brother and they called this collecting and re purposing a sickness I must admit they made money from their items I have not mastered that part yet :)

 

Don't worry about the cracks let me know when you are ready and I will help you in any way I can,  

It will look great when it is restored.