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#571 christof

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Posted 30 September 2014 - 12:50

I would love to see more pictures of the Rheingold.  I have been thinking about a 111 Extra to go along with my 1 Extra but these older Rheingold models are intriguing.  I know they come in different sizes.  Do you have any information on the lineup? 


I am sorry, the Rheingold is disassembled completey already and is waiting for restauration. I will take pics when finished again.
Yes, there are different sizes and a numbering system which I do not know and understand completely. Sorry.

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Posted 02 October 2014 - 13:08

Christof, it is great to see you back in action, and it's plain to see your standard of excellence has only increased. Looking forward to more great things!
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Posted 04 October 2014 - 15:43

You always gets some great finds, Christof. Good to see you back in action!


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 14:06

Thank you David and Bob...

Over the week end I worked on two of the lot: The Luxor and the Osmia.

Interestingly, both are made of celluloid, which pattern usually can be found on Soennecken pens

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The Luxor is a remarkably well made piston filler. The whole pen is very well made and feels sturdy in hand. Also its size is very comfortable with 125mm and compareable to Pelikan 400s. I am not 100% sure about but I guess that this is pre war production. The broad cap band is decorated which is typically for Luxor pens and the heavy brass sword-clip is just great. Both gives the pen a weighty and impressive look.

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The replacement of the cork seal was a little bit a challenge because the original seals are very thin walled. Only the best cork material can be used in such cases and a very careful proceeding is necessary.

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The pen has a nice and flexible 14 ct nib which allows expressive writing!

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The Osmia 232 is very well preserved. Hard to believe that this pen has seen lots of use. Its a button filler and dating was much easier because exactly this pen is mentioned in the book of Andreas Lambrou. (...#9 on page 229.) The pen has been made around 1938 and is pre war production as well. The pen is rather small with 117mm but the cap posts very well and so it's a handy pen as well.

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Rebuliding was an easy job

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Also this one has a marvellous and flexible EF nib.

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Both pens are filled with black Quink and are lying on my desk now for a while. After some playing, writing, sketching and doodling, the one or other may find its way to the cllassifieds, but lets see what's next

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 15:28

Those are great looking pens, and what nibs!  I am unfamiliar with the Luxor other than through your post, and the detail on the cap band is intriguing.  Would you be able to provide a close-up photo of it?

 

The other thing I was wondering about is the similarity of the celluloid to that used by Soennecken, in style and tone.  Do you see it as identical?


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Posted 07 October 2014 - 15:38

Nice work and nice presentation - as usual.

Your thread is really something special.


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Posted 08 October 2014 - 12:20

Those are great looking pens, and what nibs!  I am unfamiliar with the Luxor other than through your post, and the detail on the cap band is intriguing.  Would you be able to provide a close-up photo of it?
 
The other thing I was wondering about is the similarity of the celluloid to that used by Soennecken, in style and tone.  Do you see it as identical?


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David, I think that Soennecken and Luxor bought their celluloid from the same supplier. Just speculation....

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 14:27

That cap band has an intriguing similarity to a band I was given more than 30 years ago, worn every day since:

 

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 20:01

After a long period of blind fishing in the darkness, I finally was able to find some new pens.
Some are rather trivial, some are not...

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from left to right:

Luxor, german Piston filler, probably pre war
Soennecken Rheingold 613 in green marbeled celluloid, the highlight of the group
Soennecken 110, probably made for Swiss Market only, the second best...
Unknown, probably Italian made pen. "HKZ" stamped on nib and cap, "Helios" imprint on barrel, nice piston filler
Global, Swiss made second or third tier pen, nice flexibel gold nib
Osmia 232, pre war button filler, near mint
black and brown marbeled no name pen with 14 ct. bock nib, probably German

That's it for now, more about these pens later...

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 21:50

I look forward to what's "next", as I'm sure it will be interesting.
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 15:36

Very nice pens those Soenneckens.



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Posted 10 October 2014 - 21:54

Wonderful sketches and pen finds, Christof! Can you tell me how you source good cork for piston seals? I have not had much luck myself from using wine cork...



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Posted 10 October 2014 - 22:37

After a long period of blind fishing in the darkness, I finally was able to find some new pens.
Some are rather trivial, some are not...

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from left to right:

Luxor, german Piston filler, probably pre war
Soennecken Rheingold 613 in green marbeled celluloid, the highlight of the group
Soennecken 110, probably made for Swiss Market only, the second best...
Unknown, probably Italian made pen. "HKZ" stamped on nib and cap, "Helios" imprint on barrel, nice piston filler
Global, Swiss made second or third tier pen, nice flexibel gold nib
Osmia 232, pre war button filler, near mint
black and brown marbeled no name pen with 14 ct. bock nib, probably German

That's it for now, more about these pens later...

C.

Have missed your posts! example above why I enjoy the depth and variety of celluloid, and fussy about taking care of it properly.



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Posted 11 October 2014 - 00:54

So interesting to see these beautiful old pens, and makes my heart glad that you are extending their useful lives.  Any on of those would be a standout in my box.



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Posted 13 October 2014 - 06:57

Last Week end, I worked on the second Soennecken. Not the Rheingold, the other green one.

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Now, the interesting thing is that there is no Soennecken imprint on the whole pen.

I have had several identical pens, but every one was clearly imprinted as a Soennecken product. Most of them are Soennecken made for the Swiss Market in the 1950's. For example these:

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or this:

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This one is different. Even the nib shows no connection to Soennecken.

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So this seems to be a pen made by Soennecken which has been sold under a different name.
...but which name is unknown, still.

I sent this pictures to my Friend Daniel. He has an own site to find out more about Swiss made pens. Have a look at here: http://www.swiss-pen...g-zu-ch-marken/

But let's see what's next...

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 07:45

Nice found !

Your friend Daniel shows on his site an Edelweiss pen that has a nib similar to the one of your "Soennecken like" pen.

I really didn't know there were so many pens produced in Switzerland or for the Swiss market.



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Posted 13 October 2014 - 12:48

Nice found !
Your friend Daniel shows on his site an Edelweiss pen that has a nib similar to the one of your "Soennecken like" pen.


Yes, I know. May be there's a connection between Soennecken and Edelweiss, who knows. There is really few informations available about these Swiss brands, unfortunately....
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Posted 13 October 2014 - 14:19

Hi Christof

thanks for mentioned my website.
Here I send you a photo of my "Swiss-Marked"-Soennis
best regards

Daniel 

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 15:47

Interesting update.

 

This celluloid of the third pen in the group below is lovely:

 

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FMB has a few similar ones (pens 3, 4, and 5 from the left). In the group he shows.

 

If I recall, you've mentioned that there is no "definitive" book on Soennecken (and perhaps even Swiss) pens in general. Have you ever considered writing one?

 

BTW, thanks for sharing the link to FMB's site, and, FMB, thanks for posting.


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Posted 13 October 2014 - 16:56

Whoa, some beautiful pens there! Thanks for showing, FMB.


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Posted 13 October 2014 - 17:12

 
Have you ever considered writing one...?


Nope, I don't.
...but Daniel (FMB) does may be... :)
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Posted 13 October 2014 - 17:14

Whoa, some beautiful pens there! Thanks for showing, FMB.


But no one is as large as yours, Bob....
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Posted 17 October 2014 - 22:18

I love the red ink window on the Soenneckens and so far I've seen clear, amber, and green. Did they come in other colors too? 


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