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#1 lavie

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 15:32

I waited too late to order a Pelikan M800 14ct nib - the last one is gone from where I planned to order. Would some kind soul here tell me where I might be able to order one? I have had no success with Google.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 15:45

Have you tried The Pen Museum? He is showing 18ct on the list but I couldn't say if there are any there or not. I don't know about his shipping arrangements outside the UK either, I'm afraid, but it was just a thought.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 16:13

Have you tried The Pen Museum? He is showing 18ct on the list but I couldn't say if there are any there or not. I don't know about his shipping arrangements outside the UK either, I'm afraid, but it was just a thought.


Thanks - but unfortuantely THAT is the exact lace which just ran out...

I'd appreciate any other suggestions.


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Posted 07 March 2012 - 18:23

Nichepens.co.uk ?
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 13:28

Nichepens.co.uk ?


Thanks - but no luck there, either.

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 14:44


Nichepens.co.uk ?


Thanks - but no luck there, either.


Try The Writing Desk.

What's the story? How come no one has stock of M800 nibs???

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 17:00



Nichepens.co.uk ?


Thanks - but no luck there, either.


Try The Writing Desk.

What's the story? How come no one has stock of M800 nibs???


There are lots of M800 nibs-I have a dozen in my nibs drawer, the catch is that our poster is looking for the original 14 K nibs and those are *VERY* difficult to find.

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 17:03




Nichepens.co.uk ?


Thanks - but no luck there, either.


Try The Writing Desk.

What's the story? How come no one has stock of M800 nibs???


There are lots of M800 nibs-I have a dozen in my nibs drawer, the catch is that our poster is looking for the original 14 K nibs and those are *VERY* difficult to find.


I could swear that when I read the OP it said "18 K".... My apologies! :)

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 19:04

I would also like to try a 14K nib in my M800, which I expect would offer a bit more flex and character in writing.

Re-offering 14K nibs might be a reasonable suggestion to make to Pelikan -- after all, with gold prices as high as they are, they might be able to lower their price a bit if they offered a 14K option. Just a thought....
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 20:29

I would also like to try a 14K nib in my M800, which I expect would offer a bit more flex and character in writing.

Re-offering 14K nibs might be a reasonable suggestion to make to Pelikan -- after all, with gold prices as high as they are, they might be able to lower their price a bit if they offered a 14K option. Just a thought....


I indeed want the nib in order to have John Mottishaw turn it into a superflex.

Unfotunately, Pelikan is not the most resposive of companies. It took them several decades to finally produce an italic stub for the M800. I got one of the first and had John Mottishaw turn it into a cursive italic nib. That nib is amazing!

As for the issue of gold content, I read somewhere that the whole reason Peliukan went from 14 ct to 18 ct was that in France only 18 ct and up could legally be called gold.

In any case - thanks to all the responders!

Lavie

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 22:39

Penboard.de

There are 5 craftspeple under 'one roof'. They have lots of top condition pens.
They might have an '80's 14c nib.

They all speak English.

Due to Mauricio's improved definition of Super-flex, I no longer use the term Easy Full Flex.

 

Semi-flex is an “almost” flex; not a ‘flex’ nib. It is great for regular writing with a touch of flair. It can give you some fancy; but it is not made for real fancy writing. For bit more of that get a 'flexi'/maxi-semi-flex. Both spread tines 3X.  Those are not "Flex" nibs. 

 

Odd, how many who should know better, compares Japanese F (which equals EF), with Western F, with out a second thought, but do not compare Japanese B with Western B.

 

Wider than Normal does not exist. Wider than Japanese does. Every company has it's very own standard + slop/tolerance. Developed from the users of it's pens only; not the users of other companies pens. The size you grind a nib to, is your standard only. Paper and ink matter to nib width. Thank god for 1/2 sizes or it would be boring.


#12 Rick Propas

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:29

As for the issue of gold content, I read somewhere that the whole reason Peliukan went from 14 ct to 18 ct was that in France only 18 ct and up could legally be called gold.

In any case - thanks to all the responders!

Lavie


Yes and no, the French have traditionally mandated 18 K, but that is no longer French alone, it is the standard for the EU, so all nibs are 18 K.

Economically, it probably would not make sense for the company, any company, to make 14 K nibs for what is, after all, a niche market.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 03:19



As for the issue of gold content, I read somewhere that the whole reason Peliukan went from 14 ct to 18 ct was that in France only 18 ct and up could legally be called gold.

In any case - thanks to all the responders!

Lavie


Yes and no, the French have traditionally mandated 18 K, but that is no longer French alone, it is the standard for the EU, so all nibs are 18 K.

Economically, it probably would not make sense for the company, any company, to make 14 K nibs for what is, after all, a niche market.


I am curious if that still is the case? I ask since M600 and below still use a 14C nib and the same pens are sold in the EU as in the rest of the world?
Thanks!
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 17:34

This one just ended, at what I believe, a reasonable price:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251010865931

Best
Hari

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 18:14

Unfotunately, Pelikan is not the most resposive of companies. It took them several decades to finally produce an italic stub for the M800. I got one of the first and had John Mottishaw turn it into a cursive italic nib. That nib is amazing!


Wait, what? Why would you have waited decades for a particular nib shape, only to have a nibmeister change the shape? You could have had Mottishaw make you a CI from a B any time you wanted.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 07:37

This one just ended, at what I believe, a reasonable price:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251010865931

Best
Hari


Thank you - but aside from the fact that he was selling the whole pen, the nib was a M, and I need at least an F (and preferably an XF) in order to make a superflex.

Regards,
Lavie

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 08:40

Hi Lavie, the guy who was going to make the nib superflex for you, is an expert at creating EF or finer nibs as well.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:56

This one just ended, at what I believe, a reasonable price:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251010865931

Best
Hari


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Posted 19 March 2012 - 04:35

Indeed. I paid Regina Martini a fair bit more than that for her last 14k BB several years back. I had John Mottishaw add flex and an oblique CI grind to emulate a 101N nib from the 30's.

There's a mint OM on offer on Ebay for $299 right now: http://www.ebay.com/...1#ht_500wt_1343

The word is clearly out on these. Good luck.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 20:14

There might be another way to solve the issue.

As I have a M600 with an 18k nib which has been taken from a M800 the nibs seem to be compatible. So why not trying a 14k nib intended for a M600 (which should be easier to find)? :eureka:

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 22:42

M600 nibs are considerably smaller than M800 nibs. If I'm not mistaken the M600 nibs will not fit - the threaded collar is also smaller.
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 05:51

There might be another way to solve the issue.

As I have a M600 with an 18k nib which has been taken from a M800 the nibs seem to be compatible. So why not trying a 14k nib intended for a M600 (which should be easier to find)? :eureka:


Thanks, fd_kiel. But indeed, the M600 nib is smaller than the M800.

MfG,
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:39

Hi!

Got my M800 black a few years back from FPN member printhardcopy - very satisfied with it and with the level of communication with printhardcopy. The pen was ofcourse new in box with papers, an excellent writer ever since.
I think he has some M800s for sale, still! :thumbup:
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 13:17

Hi!

Got my M800 black a few years back from FPN member printhardcopy - very satisfied with it and with the level of communication with printhardcopy. The pen was ofcourse new in box with papers, an excellent writer ever since.
I think he has some M800s for sale, still! :thumbup:


Don't all current production Pelikan M800's have 18k nibs? I thought they only came with 14k ones whose feeling and built was closer to those of yore, for a very brief time, when the pen was first issued, from 1987 till the end of 1989.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 14:00

Pelikan has remodeled its webpage, including a production chart that helps date their pens from 1982 http://www.pelikan.c...06753./timeline While I can't help finding the 14k ones, I've tried M800's with 14k, the Bock 18k and the current Pelikan 18k. 14k was a tiny bit springier but it had the same effective very little give in than the Bock 18k. best of luck in the search of one, if you succeed, could you please post a picture of how it writes?.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 14:44

I have an early M800 (stamped W.Germany) with the 14ct nib in medium. The tip seems much smaller compared to the tip on my 2005 M800, so it feels slightly 'toothy' in comparison, but it is quite springy.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 19:45

There might be another way to solve the issue.

As I have a M600 with an 18k nib which has been taken from a M800 the nibs seem to be compatible. So why not trying a 14k nib intended for a M600 (which should be easier to find)? :eureka:


Folks,
I'm sorry for the mistake :crybaby:
I've investigated little deeper...obviously my M600 has got a M600-oldstyle nib which is an 18k one.
But I appreciate the respectful responses on my posting.
Thanks for that, but perhaps I've caused some healthy laughters :ltcapd:

Best regards
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:34


This one just ended, at what I believe, a reasonable price:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251010865931

Best
Hari


Somebody stole that :crybaby:
And it wasn't me :bawl: :gaah:


That was a pretty good price. I got my W. Germany M800 for less than a couple M200 nibs from a flea market dealer who didn't know any better -- he wanted more a Waterman Expert. :roflmho:

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 14:15

Penboard.de has a 14k Pelikan nib for sale. It is a B and is Pre-1997.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 20:36

Hi!

Got my M800 black a few years back from FPN member printhardcopy - very satisfied with it and with the level of communication with printhardcopy. The pen was ofcourse new in box with papers, an excellent writer ever since.
I think he has some M800s for sale, still! :thumbup:



He does, I just got a red M 800 with an IB nib this week from him. New nib is 18k.

Edited by jkingrph, 04 May 2012 - 20:37.

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