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#1 ever onward

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 18:50

Hello.

Recently Ink Mixer asked if I had compared Noodler's Apache Sunset to Diamine Amber in my Montegrappa Symphony--and coincidentally I had a sample of Amber waiting to be used. So here are a few pics. Some aren't lit well enough...I'm sorry; I take terrible photographs. But I think you can get the idea.

Top to bottom, the photos show
-Apache on a white Rhodia 16 pad,
-Amber on the white Rhodia 16 pad,
-Apache & Amber on cream Quo Vadis journal paper,
-a close-up of Apache & Amber on the cream Quo Vadis journal paper,
-a close-up of Apache & Amber on the white Rhodia 16 pad,
-a comparison of Amber on Quo Vadis & white Rhodia, and
-a comparison of Apache Sunset on Quo Vadis & white Rhodia.

FYI. :)

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  • Noodlers Apache Rho16wh 1.jpg
  • Diamine Amber Rho16white 1 .jpg
  • Comp Apache Amber QV 1.jpg
  • Comp Apache Amber QV 4.jpg
  • Comp Apache Amber Rho16wh 4.jpg
  • Comp Rho QV Amber.jpg
  • Comp Rho QV Apache.jpg

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 19:08

Thank you very much.
I'd plans to buy Apache Sunset when I go to the States in April.

Diamine Amber moves up to my defiantly maybe list. It has more get up and go than I expected.

Semi-flex is an “almost” flex; not a ‘flex’ nib. It is great for regular writing. It can give you some fancy; but it is not made for real fancy writing. For that get a 'flexi' or a "flex" nib.

 

Odd, how many who should know better, compares Japanese F (which equals EF), with Western F, with out a second thought, but do not compare Japanese B with Western B.

 

Wider than Normal does not exist. Wider than Japanese does. Every company has it's very own standard + slop/tolerance. Developed from the users of it's pens only; not the users of other companies pens. The size you grind a nib to, is your standard only. Paper and ink matter to nib width. Thank god for 1/2 sizes or it would be boring.


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Posted 20 February 2012 - 19:10

Absolutely gorgeous.

And I'll let folks here take a quick look before I have to move it to Scans, Comparisons, etc.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 22:17

Thanks. Both shots are gorgeous. I've been putting off Apache Sunset, but I guess I need to take the plunge. And for Diamine Amber, I wouldn't recommend it in anything smaller than a B nib. The Symphony nib also seems really nice.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 22:47

Hi, everyone!

Bo Bo--I know you have a variety of nib sizes, and that will serve you well with D. Amber because, as Ink Mixer said, it does do best in a broader nib. The one on my Montgrappa is actually a fine, but of course it flexes, so that makes the difference.

And Ink Mixer--definitely take the pluge with Apache Sunset. It's so beautiful. I've tried it also in a Gold Bond Stonite Ringtop with a little flex and a Visconti van Gogh thick fine (w/ no flex). It looked great in all of them--but of course the flex is where AS really shines.

Sorry, KCat. :) I haven't hung out in Reviews and so didn't know it's the spot for ink comparisons. Oops.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 23:51

Thanks for a great review! I just tried my Apache Sunset last night - while it shaded beautifully, it was much lighter than I had anticipated. Of course, I will experiment with other pens and papers to try for darker, richer color. I also have PR Shoreline Gold, which is lighter yet. I really like these colors, though, and I will continue to work with them.
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 01:50

Thanks for a great review! I just tried my Apache Sunset last night - while it shaded beautifully, it was much lighter than I had anticipated. Of course, I will experiment with other pens and papers to try for darker, richer color. I also have PR Shoreline Gold, which is lighter yet. I really like these colors, though, and I will continue to work with them.


Hi! If you haven't tried it yet, I'd suggest Private Reserve's Orange Crush. I found my sample to be like Apache Sunset but darker--without the yellow tone, and going deeper on the oranges and reds.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 12:54

I've become a fan of Apache Sunset in flex nib pens. Shades beautifully. Although it is not as saturated as many inks, the color contrast against most papers make it very legible. Seems rather well behaved in general.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 00:01

Oh, thank you, Belles-lettres. You're very kind.

:)

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 00:08


Thanks for a great review! I just tried my Apache Sunset last night - while it shaded beautifully, it was much lighter than I had anticipated. Of course, I will experiment with other pens and papers to try for darker, richer color. I also have PR Shoreline Gold, which is lighter yet. I really like these colors, though, and I will continue to work with them.


Hi! If you haven't tried it yet, I'd suggest Private Reserve's Orange Crush. I found my sample to be like Apache Sunset but darker--without the yellow tone, and going deeper on the oranges and reds.

best
eo


No, I haven't tried Orange Crush yet, although I have read many positive comments about it. I will be ordering some ink samples from Goulet soon - that will be among them. And +2 other comments above about your marvelous writing - it's just beautiful! Thanks again for the tip. :rolleyes:

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 01:52

Wow!!! No wonder people are always talking about Apache Sunset! Don't know where I'd use it, but I may need some too :)
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 05:33

I feel as if I gave Apache Sunset short shrift: the close-ups of Amber are closer up. So here's one more pic to even things out.
-eo

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:52

Thanks for this, it reminds me how much I like Apache Sunset. That, and Caran d Ache saffron.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 20:59

Apache Orange was already on my list of inks to try; this review has clinched my decision to at least get a sample of it. As a Denver Broncos fan :embarrassed_smile: I might have to check into Orange Crush as well. lol

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