You want me to buy a real ruler?
I use Mark 1 Eyeball.
You are much further along than I am with the more flexible nibs.
Oh, yes it's very subjective.
As I explained one of the inherited pens that started me on this addiction was a 'maxi-semi-flex', and I did not have the experience to know it. I was not mashing nibs to see how wide they spread. I just thought it a very nice wet writer.
There is enough flex difference between my semi-flex which seem to group all together and my maxi-semi-flex/flexi' nibs to tell it is a different category easily....If one has the experience
I try to tell my experience to those who have not gotten such a nib yet or has one that has not been discovered to be one.
Those maxi-semi-flex if I may I call them F nibs for Flex to me they are F-1 nibs, in easy full Flex I call F-2, Wet noodle that I have is a F-3 and I have no weak kneed wet noodles which I would put at a F-4.
In the more flexible nibs there seems to be a lot of variation.
I have dip nibs that are much more flexible than my wet noodle Soennecken. There appears to be some four grades of dip nib wet noodle
I have four full flex nibs; two seem semi-flex and I'd so rated them until a good poster who's knowledge I respect (and I respect many), said there were also semi-flex full flex nibs.
I dug them out of the repair box...ah ha! They were a lot of work, compared to the easy Full Flex. I am not far enough along to say they have better return to narrow or not.
My hand is not really ready to fiddle around with Full Flex yet.
That throws my rating system I'd developed around the maxi-semi-flex right out the window.
I can see that some one could rate maxi-semi-flex/'flexi' in a higher flex group than I do. I don't have enough easy flex nibs having only two and a single Soennecken wet noodle.
I had split the nibs that spread @ 3 X from the more flexible ones that spread 4-5 X.
In the maxi-semi-flex F-1, F-1 1/4th, F- 1 1/2 (a Rupp nib). Is very subjective. I do not have a machine to hold and press on a accurate scale to achieve real numbers.
All I have is that the nib spreads 3 X at half the pressure of a semi-flex, but no where near or there is still a noticeable difference between it and the Bock and Degussa easy Full Flex nibs that I have as easy Full flex.
Perhaps it is wrong for me to say a Full flex, spreads 4-5 times it's light down stroke, to divide a from a category of easier than semi-flex that I have place between them. But they can be written by slightly ham fisted writers and I don't think that full flex can be, or for long.
All I can do is take my 7 maxi-semi-flex and say...three or four are F-1 (my basis group), two are easier to spread by a tad so are F- 1 1/4th, and one spreads even easier F-1 1/2.
I can only put the nibs to the thumb and paper and say, that one is stiffer or that one is a tad more flexible than the others with in the set of 3X spread, and noticeably harder than the two easy flex full flex I have.
If I had a nib that was say F-1 3/4ths...I'd be at a border. I may be at a border with that Rupp F-1 1/2.
I am sure some one might call that is an easy Full flex, and what I think of as F-2 should be F-2 1/2th
. There is enough difference between them that there would be a gap between the Rupp F- 1 1/2 if it was rated as a easy full flex F-2 that the Bock and Degussa would not be quite the next step up in how much ease of flex there was.
Perhaps they are right.
It is my personal decision, with too little expertise or nibs to make or try to make a system, that involves how wide tines spread at what ease, as a reason to have a category max-semi-flex/'flexi'.
The nail Noodlers, the two semi-flex full flex, and my easy spread full flex all point to my system having fatal flaws. Those Noodlers and semi-flex spread 4-5 times but not with ease.
Everything was working just fine until Noodler brought in the nail full flex.
It works for me with out tools. I expect the easy flex full flex nibs to have gradients like the maxi-semi-flex F-1. When I run across one or two easy full flex nib that spreads 4-5 times and is at the same level as a maxi-semi-flex then my system is dead to me.
Right now I see a category between semi-flex and easy full flex...or Super flex as some call it. The maxi-semi-flex/'flexi' nib.
Semi-flex can be written with by the ham fisted and will not damage the nib....fountain pen ham fisted...not ball point ham fisted.
Maxi-semi-flex/'flexi' can be written by the slightly ham fisted.
Easy Full Flex/super flex needs a light hand, and can be sprung by ham fisted writers.
That too is a part of my category seeking.
I need categories in I can not read minds unless I am in the same room.
The "I hate flexi nibs, or I can't write with flexi nibs", and I don't know is he talking about semi-flex, maxi-semi-flex/'flexi' or easy Full flex/super flex, or wet noodles.
No one says, I have had two or three brad YY or it was a XXX brand nib....it's I hate flex. Too vague for me.
I can't say if you don't like wet noodles or full flex, try maxi-semi-flex it's a nice nib, one can write fast with it, not bust it easily and have fun.
I just don't know what flex he is talking about...for all I know he could be talking about semi-flex.
Edited by Bo Bo Olson, 15 July 2011 - 00:14.