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#31 UkeDan

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 01:52


:crybaby: Still waiting for mine...


Me too! Can we cry together? :crybaby:

Dang! (Still) Waiting for mine too!!! :crybaby:

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 03:03

I don't know if the marring on the demonstrator's barrel appears on all of them or just the one I happened to get, so it might be good to either go for a color or to ask for a hand inspection before a demonstrator is sent (see above, $14, for a flex pen) if you are concerned about the finish.

Well, my experience is the same as yours, so it seems like it's just a quality of the resin used for these pens.
This is why I prefer the plastic on the creaper demonstrator. I thought I would like the flex demonstrator better because it is all clear, but not so.
The question I'm waiting to answer for myself is if the nib makes up for the less satisfactory experience with the body.

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 05:01



I don't know if the marring on the demonstrator's barrel appears on all of them or just the one I happened to get, so it might be good to either go for a color or to ask for a hand inspection before a demonstrator is sent (see above, $14, for a flex pen) if you are concerned about the finish.

Well, my experience is the same as yours, so it seems like it's just a quality of the resin used for these pens.
This is why I prefer the plastic on the creaper demonstrator. I thought I would like the flex demonstrator better because it is all clear, but not so.
The question I'm waiting to answer for myself is if the nib makes up for the less satisfactory experience with the body.


I have the same marks on mine. And it smells funky too, haha.
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 16:59

I just got one this morning and so far am not real keen on it. The barrel is covered in fine scratches, far worse than what I'd expect on a "user grade" used pen.

I've only had a chance to try it with one ink (it showed up 20 minutes ago in a box with #41 brown) but this seems to be another Noodler's pen (like one of my aerometrics) that is really rather poorly behaved when it comes to dripping, splattering, etc. I wiped the nib down pretty well, but it is prone to either dripping or a fine mist of ink all over the page (if you write fast). It sort of looks like when they do the blood spatter tests on CSI. It's too bad, It makes a neat signature pen (mine is simple and fast) as it gives good natural line variation (and seems less prone to hanging up than a CI), but whenever I write a signature like my normal signature, it just covers the page in a fine mist of brown. At least it was cheap.
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 17:43

My Noodler's Creaper arrived today from Goulet Pens. (Love how quickly Brian gets orders shipped, by the way.) I bought the demonstrator model because I thought it would be cool to see the innerds of a pen. I'm not disappointed. Also, the nib flexes more easily than my Esterbrook 2048 nib, and with none of the scratchiness, so I am thrilled with this pen! Yes, it does take quite a bit of practice to get "nice" handwriting, but that is a labor of love. It writes surprisingly smooth. My Creaper is a keeper!

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 19:42

I was really excited when I heard about this pen, and it has not disappointed. I love flex nibs, but haven't seen any at such an affordable price before.

Ordered mine (plus a bottle of Black Swan) from isellpens.com on Friday and received it on Saturday! I have not put it down since.
It offers some great line width variations, and is neither too firm nor too noodley. And with a lighter hand, it is fine for faster jotting.

I did note that after being capped overnight standing nib, the next morning I had to work a little to get it flowing again. But I had left it with just a drop of ink inside.

I got the December 25 version - it has a classy, vintage look. The green is subdued enough within the red to be useful year round. Not too "Christmas-y" at all.

The Black Swan ink works really nicely in this pen, and offers what I think is a great deal of lovely shading. I'll post a sample later.

It's been awhile since I have worked on my handwriting but this combo makes me want to practice until I can do it some justice.
I'll definitely pick up another one, but I'm waiting to see what other colors might be available in future.

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 20:42

Received mine today from Goulet Pens. I chose the Red and Green one. I inked it up with a new bottle of Noodler's Heart of Darkness. First impressions are that it's a very wet pen. With more pressure, it's really wet and wide. It works so much better on a good fountain pen type paper like my Clairfontaine paper, white, 80g. The 90g seems keep the ink too wet for too long of a time.
I think the pen feels a little small in my hand, but I'm used to a big Lamy. Even though it feels smaller then I like, it still sits in my hand very comfortably, and I have to say that writing with it is an effortless job.
All in all, to this point, I have to say that it's a great pen for $14. It's a different pen then my Parker 51 or my Esterbrook J, or my new Waterman Phileas. But... it's in my daily rotation for the time being.
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 21:28

Anyone have advice on setting the nib and feed to reduce flow when flexed?? My demonstrator has been great, predictable, wet without being too wet. My christmas pen however is a bit of a gusher, and also seems to be a bit dryer when not flexed. I kind of want to put black swan in it full time, and it's just a bit too wet for that when flexing on most of the paper's I've used (hp 32lb laserjet, some bagasse like paper from steno pads, copy paper is no-go)

I've tried setting the feed and nib identically to my demo pen, but it was kinda set like that to begin with so it didn't really help. It actually doesn't feed too much when flexing a line, it's when the tines come back together that it spooges a ton of ink back into the letter.

Right now I've got the feed pushed in further by about 1 feed... groove thing... dunno what those are called. It's a little better but I'm sure there's some other way I'm not aware of to get it to feed just right.

**edit: Since it was my free sample and a nice time of year for red ink, I tried nikita in it first and wow.. that almost made me write the ink off, talk about a firehose. It spewed twice as much ink as it did with Black Swan loaded up. Feathered on EVERYTHING and gushed a pool when flexing. :bonk: Not a knock on the pen or the ink, it's just not very good in flex pens I think. Works great in my safari.**

**PS: the red part of Black Swan stains fingers like no other noodler's ink I've used, I suggest gloves or or something when filling if you don't want stained fingers.

Edited by Yoda4561, 13 December 2010 - 21:50.


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Posted 13 December 2010 - 21:52

My Noodler's Creaper arrived today from Goulet Pens. (Love how quickly Brian gets orders shipped, by the way.) I bought the demonstrator model because I thought it would be cool to see the innerds of a pen. I'm not disappointed. Also, the nib flexes more easily than my Esterbrook 2048 nib, and with none of the scratchiness, so I am thrilled with this pen! Yes, it does take quite a bit of practice to get "nice" handwriting, but that is a labor of love. It writes surprisingly smooth. My Creaper is a keeper!

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I may have endorsed too quickly. A few hours later, and I'm getting frustrated by the amount of railroading I'm getting. Maybe it has something to do with the ink? I started off using Waterman Havana and had almost no problems. I then switched to Private Reserve Tropical Blue and now I'm having the railroading issue.
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 21:58


My Noodler's Creaper arrived today from Goulet Pens. (Love how quickly Brian gets orders shipped, by the way.) I bought the demonstrator model because I thought it would be cool to see the innerds of a pen. I'm not disappointed. Also, the nib flexes more easily than my Esterbrook 2048 nib, and with none of the scratchiness, so I am thrilled with this pen! Yes, it does take quite a bit of practice to get "nice" handwriting, but that is a labor of love. It writes surprisingly smooth. My Creaper is a keeper!

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I may have endorsed too quickly. A few hours later, and I'm getting frustrated by the amount of railroading I'm getting. Maybe it has something to do with the ink? I started off using Waterman Havana and had almost no problems. I then switched to Private Reserve Tropical Blue and now I'm having the railroading issue.



The ink really does seem to have a big effect. I've noticed the more heavily surfactant loaded inks (that make soap bubbles when you shake, or coat the sides of a bottle easily) seem to railroad the least, the inks that are more watery with little soaping up don't seem to maintain that sheet when flexing, I think it's kinda like how blowing bubbles works, you gotta have the right ink to maintain that film.

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 02:28

Received my clear demonstrator from Goulet Pens last night but no time then to try it. Tonight I inked it with Sherwood Green and off she went --- love this pen for $14. It is closest to the Esterbrook 9128 but more refined: maybe EF rather than just F, spreads a little wider and is definitely softer to flex. It isn't my c. 1918 Snapfil but it wasn't anywhere near that cost of acquisition either. I really like it and will probably use it to address Christmas cards in order to break it in - heck, I might like it even better then.Also interested in trying some other fave inks like 1670 and Aqua Blue, both of which are killers in my wet noodle nibs.

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 05:31

Anyone have advice on setting the nib and feed to reduce flow when flexed?? My demonstrator has been great, predictable, wet without being too wet. My christmas pen however is a bit of a gusher, and also seems to be a bit dryer when not flexed. I kind of want to put black swan in it full time, and it's just a bit too wet for that when flexing on most of the paper's I've used (hp 32lb laserjet, some bagasse like paper from steno pads, copy paper is no-go)

I've tried setting the feed and nib identically to my demo pen, but it was kinda set like that to begin with so it didn't really help. It actually doesn't feed too much when flexing a line, it's when the tines come back together that it spooges a ton of ink back into the letter.

Right now I've got the feed pushed in further by about 1 feed... groove thing... dunno what those are called. It's a little better but I'm sure there's some other way I'm not aware of to get it to feed just right.






Nix that, User error mostly it seems, Was playing around just now with some different papers and an actual hard writing surface *instead of a notebook* and it's MUCH better. To put it in perspective, both pens flex to the same width, otherwise they're like the 52 1/2 waterman (my Demo. Flex pen) and the WET waterman 52 on the bottom (christmas pen). http://www.fountainp...stralian-roses/ Which is good because that's the look I really wanted with black swan. It was just way more ink than I was used to seeing on a single letter that I freaked out I think. Didn't help that writing on the top of a legal pad was letting the nib cut into the paper and bleed everywhere.

Guess the next step is to get some of that fancy shmancy imported paper to see what the pen and ink are really capable of, instead of hp laserjet and an Ampad Recycled paper Legal pad. :embarrassed_smile:

Wheee... The closeup of the word Christmas shows off the shading even when writing normally, with an XF line. I think I'll readjust the nib to the default position and try it again when I'm feeling more adventurous.

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 10:01

Semi-flex, Slightly flexible and Full Flexible nibs do have a tendency to be wetter than the stiffer 'normal' regular flex nibs. It's the nature of the beast, in the tines spread, laying more ink.

Semi-flex is an “almost” flex; not a ‘flex’ nib. It is great for regular writing. It can give you some fancy; but it is not made for real fancy writing. For that get a 'flexi' or a "flex" nib.

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Wider than Normal does not exist. Wider than Japanese does. Every company has it's very own standard + slop/tolerance. Developed from the users of it's pens only; not the users of other companies pens. The size you grind a nib to, is your standard only. Paper and ink matter to nib width. Thank god for 1/2 sizes or it would be boring.


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Posted 14 December 2010 - 13:56

Got mine yesterday and inked it with "Australian Roses" Like it so far, very smooth and flexy for a modern pen. I noticed that if the pen isn't full of ink it tends to "firehose" as my hand heat transfers into the pen. Keeping it full seems to have fixed it. I'm taking it to work and will see how it works on various papers there. It seems, so far, to not rail like my other demo flex nib. It may be a difference in the feed between the two pens, the original version has the plastic feed and this one has the ebonite feed.

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 00:51

I am ridiculously pleased with my pen. I picked up Apache Sunset to go with this pen and WOW, the shading is amazing. I didn't expect such a great pen for $14.

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 09:17

After playing with this pen for a couple of days I can actually write very well with a flexible pen, and my handwriting is looking great! It may be a sort of beginner's pen, but I am a beginner and very pleased. I will be ordering more when more colours and pens become available.

Thanks to both Nathan at Noodler's Inks (and pens!) and Brian and Rachel Goulet for fast shipping and a very smooth transaction during a hectic period!
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Posted 15 December 2010 - 17:35



My Noodler's Creaper arrived today from Goulet Pens. (Love how quickly Brian gets orders shipped, by the way.) I bought the demonstrator model because I thought it would be cool to see the innerds of a pen. I'm not disappointed. Also, the nib flexes more easily than my Esterbrook 2048 nib, and with none of the scratchiness, so I am thrilled with this pen! Yes, it does take quite a bit of practice to get "nice" handwriting, but that is a labor of love. It writes surprisingly smooth. My Creaper is a keeper!

Bob


I may have endorsed too quickly. A few hours later, and I'm getting frustrated by the amount of railroading I'm getting. Maybe it has something to do with the ink? I started off using Waterman Havana and had almost no problems. I then switched to Private Reserve Tropical Blue and now I'm having the railroading issue.



The ink really does seem to have a big effect. I've noticed the more heavily surfactant loaded inks (that make soap bubbles when you shake, or coat the sides of a bottle easily) seem to railroad the least, the inks that are more watery with little soaping up don't seem to maintain that sheet when flexing, I think it's kinda like how blowing bubbles works, you gotta have the right ink to maintain that film.


Switched back to Waterman Black and have had minimal railroading since.
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Posted 15 December 2010 - 20:33

I'm pretty excited about it, but I dislike demonstrators and the red/green sets my teeth on edge. I'm waiting to get a nice blue or orange one, and re-learn how to write.


I feel the same about red/green and demos. I'm hoping for green or teal or white, or a shiny silvery or coppery, or perhaps pink or peach. Blue or orange, sorry, not so much.

I already have my Black Swan in Australian Roses. It really is lovely, even without flex.


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Posted 16 December 2010 - 02:06

This pen is most like my 1930's pens, in size and the nib is very like one old pen that has a nib marked "imperial".
I am a bit careful with my old finless pens - I drag them with me only when I know I am going somewhere I can sit.

This Noodler's flex pen, well I have been dragging it everywhere for the past two days. It wrote and drew on the subway. It filled out and signed student forms.
I made some drawings of landscapes from life, and some figures from invention.
I have used it on cheap paper, on decent laid paper and in my moleskin date book.

Like my 1930's imperial, your hand has to be aware of the nib; but that's what drawing is, a partnership between hand, eye, brain and materials.

I am absolutely enthralled with the pen.

And, Mr Goulet was lovely to deal with. Treated me like an intelligent individual when I had a question.

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 18:22

Got my order in at the Goulet's for the clear Noodler's flex pen and a bottle of Black Swan in Australian Roses! I agree that other colors would be great. I'm not a fan of clear pens and the red/green is not my style either. I am very much looking forward to trying the Flex + Australian Roses out!

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 20:08

Got my order in at the Goulet's for the clear Noodler's flex pen and a bottle of Black Swan in Australian Roses! I agree that other colors would be great. I'm not a fan of clear pens and the red/green is not my style either. I am very much looking forward to trying the Flex + Australian Roses out!


Had my finger hovering over the "add to cart" button as soon as it went from "email when..." to "1". And the clear are gone already as expected. No Australian swans and roses for me but maybe sometime in the future.

Wonder how many Brian had and who quick they went? Still some reds and greens there.
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Posted 17 December 2010 - 20:14

I nearly hit the confirm button and then realized I have a Montegrappa to pay for, and I am really not that into the Red and Green swirl. I will be buying more of these, but I am going to wait on more colours to be released, so I let this batch pass by. -_-

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 15:57

I was really surprised by the amount and ease of flex. It's very similar to some of my vintage nibs. This is a great little pen for the price, and it's something I can toss in my bag or use with Baystate Blue without worry.

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Posted 19 December 2010 - 23:32

I was really surprised by the amount and ease of flex. It's very similar to some of my vintage nibs. This is a great little pen for the price, and it's something I can toss in my bag or use with Baystate Blue without worry.


I'm hoping it's at least comparable to my Estie 9128. I have two - one is flexy, one is semi-flex. Hoping for something closer to the former rather than the latter.
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Posted 19 December 2010 - 23:38


I was really surprised by the amount and ease of flex. It's very similar to some of my vintage nibs. This is a great little pen for the price, and it's something I can toss in my bag or use with Baystate Blue without worry.


I'm hoping it's at least comparable to my Estie 9128. I have two - one is flexy, one is semi-flex. Hoping for something closer to the former rather than the latter.


The pressure required is a little more than I expected, but I don't have any vintage to compare to. They all seem to go out to 1.5mm comfortably at the max which takes a bit of pressure. Small changes in the nib setting can have a large effect on the maximum flex and "softness" of the nib. At the fine end there's a bit of variability, my demonstrator is an XF-F depending on the ink used, no matter how light I touch the paper it won't go any finer. My normal handwriting with it doesn't spread the tines much. My Christmas edition pen goes from an ultrafine, hairline with most of the inks I've used, and it seems like if I used a non-feathering ink on the right kind of paper it would make a line so thin I couldn't see it without a magnifying glass. The smallest amount of pressure on that nib (normal writing) will bring it to a Fine-Medium.

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Posted 22 December 2010 - 14:07

Well I got mine yesterday :thumbup: and after flushing, tried it with:

Tiananmen Red : tons of feathering oc cheaper paper;
Herbins's Café des Îles
Herbin's Terre de Feu
Waterman's South Seas Blue
Noodler's Air-Corps Blue-Black

The last two were the best, the South Seas Blue has nice shading and the A-C B-B behave really well.

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Now to order some Apache Sunset. I won't get it before Christmas that's for sure. Maybe I'll cave in for some Herbin's 1670.

All in all I'm satisfied after a little tweaking. This is my first flex pen so I've nothing to compare it to, although my Admiral touchdown has enough spring to simulate a flex nib, without the thin hairline stroke, however. I do have to apply some pressure to flex the nib however, but not all that much. This may be a jumping board to a vintage Waterman's or Mabie & Todd, but only after all Christmas gifts are got, given and paid for (sometime in March :roflmho: ).

It was really easy removing the nib and feed. And I've no apparent flaws or scratches.

So there goes: I'm very satisfied.

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Posted 22 December 2010 - 14:15

Well I got mine yesterday :thumbup: and after flushing, tried it with:

Tiananmen Red : tons of feathering oc cheaper paper;
Herbins's Café des Îles
Herbin's Terre de Feu
Waterman's South Seas Blue
Noodler's Air-Corps Blue-Black

The last two were the best, the South Seas Blue has nice shading and the A-C B-B behave really well.

Noodlers Flex.jpg

Now to order some Apache Sunset. I won't get it before Christmas that's for sure. Maybe I'll cave in for some Herbin's 1670.

All in all I'm satisfied after a little tweaking. This is my first flex pen so I've nothing to compare it to, although my Admiral touchdown has enough spring to simulate a flex nib, without the thin hairline stroke, however. I do have to apply some pressure to flex the nib however, but not all that much. This may be a jumping board to a vintage Waterman's or Mabie & Todd, but only after all Christmas gifts are got, given and paid for (sometime in March :roflmho: ).

It was really easy removing the nib and feed. And I've no apparent flaws or scratches.

So there goes: I'm very satisfied.


Beautiful handwriting Dan. I can see why you're satisfied, that style of writing is what the flex was made for. Thank you for sharing.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 17:01

Well I got mine yesterday :thumbup: and after flushing, tried it with:

Tiananmen Red : tons of feathering oc cheaper paper;
Herbins's Café des Îles
Herbin's Terre de Feu
Waterman's South Seas Blue
Noodler's Air-Corps Blue-Black

The last two were the best, the South Seas Blue has nice shading and the A-C B-B behave really well.

Noodlers Flex.jpg

Now to order some Apache Sunset. I won't get it before Christmas that's for sure. Maybe I'll cave in for some Herbin's 1670.

All in all I'm satisfied after a little tweaking. This is my first flex pen so I've nothing to compare it to, although my Admiral touchdown has enough spring to simulate a flex nib, without the thin hairline stroke, however. I do have to apply some pressure to flex the nib however, but not all that much. This may be a jumping board to a vintage Waterman's or Mabie & Todd, but only after all Christmas gifts are got, given and paid for (sometime in March :roflmho: ).

It was really easy removing the nib and feed. And I've no apparent flaws or scratches.

So there goes: I'm very satisfied.


I love your handwriting, you should post some pictures of it in the penmanship forum if you haven't already!
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 20:03

Got mine today along with some Black Swan.

First impressions? It looks as cheap as it costs and is a little too thin for my tastes. One has to press quite hard for it to flex (my first ever flex, so maybe they are all like this) and then it is anything but smooth (in terms of what I would call smooth) and drags on the paper - an artifact of pressing hard.

I bought it to try out a flex nib as I have never seen one before, and it was an interesting experiment, but not a pen I will be using to write with. Some people seem to love flex nibs (Bo Bo Olson for instance), but I fail to see why if this experience is typical. Give me a nice italic any day :)


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Posted 24 December 2010 - 12:54

Thanks for the generous compliments Surfbits and Gobblecups. And Merry Christmas.

ImolaS3, I noticed that after a full day or two of writing the flex is much easier to get. I don't have to press much to go from a hairline to a medium. Maybe my hand is getting used to it but still, much easier to write with. Maybe the nib "settles in" after a while.

Also, are the tines aligned? It's relatively easy to align them; if need be, there are ressources in the pen repairs section of FPN. Mine writes as smooth as my Duke Chaplin and it's the only pen inked right now. I just can't put in down. With Herbin's 1670 that I bought yesterday (last bottle at my local pen shop) it writes a beautifully smooth consistent line. It will definitely be a daily user when I go back to work, next year.

Of course, it doesn't write smoothly like my Sheaffer's, especially my Prelude and my Admiral touchdown.

After all, this pen set me back $14 new. The inks that I wanted to try set me back way more. I wouldn't give up on this pen yet. I'd try to align the tines and tweak the nib and feed as explained in this post

http://www.fountainp...omplete-lineup/

to make it a good writer. (Scroll down the post to "3rd Category".)

Just my 2 cents worth.

Merry Christmas.

Edited by UkeDan, 24 December 2010 - 12:55.