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#721 RMN

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 23:15

My wife recently attended a conference in Montréal and while shopping/sightseeing in her free time she happened upon a Stylo boutique. I've ordered from their online site before so she recognized the name. A gentleman showed her around and answered dozens of her questions before she settled on buying me a birthday present. The Caréne in Marine Amber is a beautiful pen and has one of the smoothest nibs I have ever used. She also picked up a bottle of Graf von Faber-Castell Garnet Red, which is a delicious shade of red.

 

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Nice present. Congrats on such an attentive wife!!  And on your birthday....

 

 

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 19:27

Just acquired a Carène Deluxe, fine nib, in a trade. I need to fully ink it up, but I really like the build quality and how it wrote dipped.

 

Only negative? Cleaning the pen makes me think Parker 51s and are easier to deal with.



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Posted 15 August 2014 - 21:04

Just acquired a Carène Deluxe, fine nib, in a trade. I need to fully ink it up, but I really like the build quality and how it wrote dipped.

 

Only negative? Cleaning the pen makes me think Parker 51s and are easier to deal with.

If you want to take them apart: yes, that is best left to the pros, or some semi-pros like Force.....

 

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 21:07

If you want to take them apart: yes, that is best left to the pros, or some semi-pros like Force.....

 

This was just a regular clean-and-flush to change inks. I think it took a good 24 hours of soaking, then 30 minutes of manual labor, then another 12 hours of dry time.



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Posted 04 September 2014 - 15:16

I was able to get a truly stunning Italian-made Waterman 42 (Safety) from the 1930s, and I filled it today, and all is well!  The only slightly bothersome aspect is after you post the cap, and remove it, it leaves ink on the bottom of the pen, which has to be wiped away with a rag.  But the beauty of the pen more than makes up for this minor inconvenience!

 

When it was up for auction, I don't think that people realized that the engraving suggests that this must have been a pen that was given to officers in Mussolini's 44th Infantry regiment.  If so, it's truly a pen of historical significance!

 

Here are a couple of photos, and a writing sample:

 

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 15:23

Gorgeous. Pen, writing & ink.  :)



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Posted 05 September 2014 - 02:28

I agree, the pen is stunning! Congratulations. May you use it in good health. Don
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Posted 05 September 2014 - 02:55

My wife recently attended a conference in Montréal and while shopping/sightseeing in her free time she happened upon a Stylo boutique. I've ordered from their online site before so she recognized the name. A gentleman showed her around and answered dozens of her questions before she settled on buying me a birthday present. The Caréne in Marine Amber is a beautiful pen and has one of the smoothest nibs I have ever used. She also picked up a bottle of Graf von Faber-Castell Garnet Red, which is a delicious shade of red.
 
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For a brief time I was toying with the idea of getting for myself the pen your wife got for you. I did notice, however, that some of these amber Carenes (the older ones, or previous versions?) are more red than amber. Did the Waterman Carene in fact change its color a bit in recent years? Personally, I favor more the reddish amber than the amber amber (yes, I repeated myself, spellcheck!). Just wondering. Don
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Posted 06 September 2014 - 08:43



For a brief time I was toying with the idea of getting for myself the pen your wife got for you. I did notice, however, that some of these amber Carenes (the older ones, or previous versions?) are more red than amber. Did the Waterman Carene in fact change its color a bit in recent years? Personally, I favor more the reddish amber than the amber amber (yes, I repeated myself, spellcheck!). Just wondering. Don

They change colour depending on the ambient lighting. The above pen looks to be in very bright sunlight, evident by the long shadows. Possibly one of the longest running production colours if not the longest with Black Sea Gloss.

 

I clean with intermittent ultrasonics in conjunction with warm water flushing with a jumbo syringe, then LP airline to remove most of the water, then allow to dry. I don't think you want it too dry otherwise you may end up with the poor ink flow which some Carene users experience. The feed is a BIG, complex, boy in these pens.

 

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Posted 06 September 2014 - 09:08

It really is a stunning pen, to complement the wonderful script!

 

 

I was able to get a truly stunning Italian-made Waterman 42 (Safety) from the 1930s, and I filled it today, and all is well!  The only slightly bothersome aspect is after you post the cap, and remove it, it leaves ink on the bottom of the pen, which has to be wiped away with a rag.  But the beauty of the pen more than makes up for this minor inconvenience!

 

When it was up for auction, I don't think that people realized that the engraving suggests that this must have been a pen that was given to officers in Mussolini's 44th Infantry regiment.  If so, it's truly a pen of historical significance!

 

Here are a couple of photos, and a writing sample:

 

fpn_1409843178__waterman-italian-total.j

fpn_1409843155__waterman-italian-cap-nib

fpn_1409843073__italian_waterman-sample.

 

 

I never knew how complex that feed is - a masterwork of engineering, or rather fluid mechanics ;)

 

I think I'll just PM you when my Carene clogs; that is quite the procedure!

 

They change colour depending on the ambient lighting. The above pen looks to be in very bright sunlight, evident by the long shadows. Possibly one of the longest running production colours if not the longest with Black Sea Gloss.

 

I clean with intermittent ultrasonics in conjunction with warm water flushing with a jumbo syringe, then LP airline to remove most of the water, then allow to dry. I don't think you want it too dry otherwise you may end up with the poor ink flow which some Carene users experience. The feed is a BIG, complex, boy in these pens.

 

fpn_1409993773__dscn0331.jpg

 

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 17:17

They change colour depending on the ambient lighting. The above pen looks to be in very bright sunlight, evident by the long shadows. Possibly one of the longest running production colours if not the longest with Black Sea Gloss.

 

I clean with intermittent ultrasonics in conjunction with warm water flushing with a jumbo syringe, then LP airline to remove most of the water, then allow to dry. I don't think you want it too dry otherwise you may end up with the poor ink flow which some Carene users experience. The feed is a BIG, complex, boy in these pens.

 

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fpn_1409993513__dscn0330.jpg

Thanks for the pictures of the stripped down Carene. It is a stunning looking pen, with a pretty complicated looking feed collector!  Question: What's that gunk under the hood? (I'm not alluding to a car problem, obviously!) It looks like some form of adhesive. Is it?

 

Having purchased just yesterday a vintage 1948 Parker "51" FP-and-pencil set, I'm wondering if I should disassemble the FP to inspect the collector for gunk. I flushed the pen quite thoroughly with water until the water ran clear, but I have this nagging suspicion the collector is less than immaculate. The nib seems to be a fine, and while I'm not used to writing with a fine nib, the ink delivery seems a bit dry. Could a gunked up collector be part of the problem?

 

There are several videos by Grandmia on U-tube at www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCBsMGnhaGQ about how to disassemble, clean, and reassemble a Parker "51" but I'm leery about heating the area where the hood attaches to the barrel, which is something you need to do, according to the narrator of the videos. Oh, I forgot: I did try--very gingerly--to separate the tines on the nib a little bit, but the ink flow didn't improve. Do you think I should just soak the feed/hood for a couple days?

 

You seem to be quite handy with pen maintenance, so thanks in advance for any advice you care to give.  Don


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Posted 07 September 2014 - 17:55

Yep, the nib is glued on. If there is not enough glue near the horns that probably is a reason for the nib creep these pens sometimes have.

 

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 20:06

To enhance on D.ick's answer I am not sure what glue is used by Waterman but it is failry thick and appears to stay elastic. I use G-S Hypo cement when replacing nibs. One has to be very careful with the quantity applied because it can be easy to get adhesive where you don't want it.



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Posted 11 September 2014 - 00:10

Much less dramatic than the 42 Safety Pen with the Italian inscription is this (1930s??) Tiger-Eye lever filler.  It has a matching pencil as well.  The nib has a bit of scratchiness to it, but it is flexible and makes some lovely lines.  

 

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 04:52

Indeed less stunning (but still very nice), but the writing you do with it is very pleasing to the eye... :thumbup:

 

 

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