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Well I knew it would happen sooner or later but I bought a pen on ebay that is such a fake that I am amazed that the person has so much positive feedback. Let's say I was suspicious when the package that was suppose to come from Germany has a chinese cancellation stamp on the outside. It went downhill from here. I emailed the seller as well as in ebay as well as paypal so I'll see what happens.

 

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I feel for you, Kurt. Ebay is really the Wild West. The bargains can be great and most sellers are honest, but every once in a while, one gets stung.

 

Good luck with Paypal. Ebay probably won't do anything for you.

 

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Sorry to hear that, Kurt. Hmmmm... and the seller has many positive feedbacks...? Hard luck, mate and good luck with the next stages of this transaction.

 

 

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You can't always get what you want... but if you try sometimes... you just might find... you'll get what you need...

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If you dont mind me asking, what model of pen was it?

a mb skywalker, the price was low but not excessively low.

 

 

K

That price thing is even more deceptive! I paid $100 for a fake Dupont in 2004, sold by a Chinese guy from New York with sufficient positive feedback. Maybe some 'happy' customers don't recognize a fake immediately.

Now, after two years of resting unused in the box, the chrome plating is flaking off ... :bonk: :bonk: :bonk:

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Hmmm, I'm thinking I might have been had as well after bidding for a pen case (yep, Mont Blanc - I should have known better). I only saw the auction in the last couple of mins and placed a bid, seller had lots of positive feedback, but its all ebooks and what have you, and they have been selling rather a lot of pen cases when I investigated..... Fortunately the value isn't really high, and perhaps I will get the pen case, but my hopes aren't high. Lesson learned.

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Hi all,

 

Some weeks ago I have tried to buy a vintage MB from a ebay seller from canada, he had good feedback, the pen was deffault, but the price was low...

 

Neverthess, after my winning the auction I discovered other auction that had ended days before with the same pen !!!

 

Already holding my breath I waited for a email from the seller before paying!

 

Next day eBAY took action and anulled the auction and sale - happy me :D !!!

 

It looks like someone entered a legitimate ebay member profile and tried to sell trough him, usingt ot's feedback history. The human mind never rests :ph34r: !!!

 

rusty

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I always check to see *who* left the positive feedback for a seller.

If it's a bunch of bidders with zero feedbacks, then I suspect some sort of "shill feedbacking" (is there even such a term?) It's not common, but I have seen it on eBay with sellers who have a small# of positives, but "100% positive feedback".

 

Sorry to hear you got burned, Kurt. Better luck next time! You can get some great bargains on eBay but there are risks, of course....

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You can get some great bargains on eBay but there are risks, of course....

Well, I think I saved more money thanks to ebay through the years than I lost on fakes /:)

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You can get some great bargains on eBay but there are risks, of course....

Well, I think I saved more money thanks to ebay through the years than I lost on fakes /:)

I paid through paypal so I'm in their dispute resolution. I made sure I made a copy of the ebay auction to be sure that there wasn't any confusion. The seller is disagreeing.

what else do 100% authentic mean :rolleyes:

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There is also the other way round: pretending a pen is by a little known pricey luxury brand, while it is just a Chinese cheapo!

 

In this German auction:

 

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...em=150028933613

 

starting price € 45

 

the seller calls the Duke Shark/Mako a Duke Green Shark Porsche Design luxury FP, claims it is not available normally in Germany (true) while has a B&M shop price of aprox. € 250 ( :blink: :blink: ) and an exclusive leather presentation box ... says it is on the quality level of Dupont and Cartier :bonk: :bonk: :bonk:

 

The green Duke Shark/Mako is available at some online shops and ebay sellers for only US$ 10 to 15 :doh: :doh: :roflmho:

 

Watch out, folks :ltcapd:

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just to let you know I am too a ebay satisfied user.

 

caution is good policy everiwhere if You don't like to get burned.

 

I envatise the fact that in my case ebay took care of the "strange" business ;) !!

 

rusty

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You can get some great bargains on eBay but there are risks, of course....

Well, I think I saved more money thanks to ebay through the years than I lost on fakes /:)

I paid through paypal so I'm in their dispute resolution. I made sure I made a copy of the ebay auction to be sure that there wasn't any confusion. The seller is disagreeing.

what else do 100% authentic mean :rolleyes:

Hello Kurt,

 

You have one point in your favor and that is Paypal usually bends over backward towards the buyer rather than the seller. But I've been down this road more than a couple of times with e-bay purchases. Let me give you a couple of things to be prepared for-

 

1. They may require you to get substantiation from a neutral third party expert- I went through this with what was supposed to be a first edition set of the Harvard Classics turned out to be a 1937 edition. I had to go to an antique bookseller and have them write a letter stating that it was not a first edition as the seller claimed.

 

2. Paypal may very likely take a cut based on the final percentage for mediating the case for you. I also had that bitter experience a couple of times- one time with an $81 purchase that I NEVER RECEIVED and I only wound-up getting $56 back- which I suppose is better than nothing but it still peeved me because all they did was transfer the money from the sellers account back to mine- there wasn't all that much "mediation" involved. :angry:

 

3. If this is your very first claim, it may go smoother for you, my first claim was trouble-free, but when I was forced to make additional claims against other sellers down the road, they start putting more pressure on you to prove your case- which I always have always been able to do. :)

 

Ironically, I received a total refund for the 51-volume set of the Harvard Classics that was misrepresented, (after I returned it to the seller, of course), but I still had to go through a couple of hoops to get it- but I got it.

 

At any rate- good luck- you may need it. ;)

 

Sean

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A Chinese guy who lived in the same building was a scholar on Fellowship at the local univ. When he wasnt working at the lab, he was running fake eBay auctions. he would steal pictures from other genuine sellers, and then try tp ass them off on his own. he got other Chinese folks from back home write fake positive feedback.

 

HE was busted early this year, and as far as I know, was arrested by the FBI, lost his fellowship, and deported back to China. The landlady was complaining becasue his lease went till December of '06, and she lost 9 months worth of rent!!!

 

Hope Ebay corrects the situation for you, Kurt.

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A Chinese guy who lived in the same building was a scholar on Fellowship at the local univ. When he wasnt working at the lab, he was running fake eBay auctions. he would steal pictures from other genuine sellers, and then try tp ass them off on his own. he got other Chinese folks from back home write fake positive feedback.

 

HE was busted early this year, and as far as I know, was arrested by the FBI, lost his fellowship, and deported back to China. The landlady was complaining becasue his lease went till December of '06, and she lost 9 months worth of rent!!!

 

Hope Ebay corrects the situation for you, Kurt.

The ebay process pretty much says go through Paypal first then talk to us. But I also reported the auction as counterfeit goods as well so maybe it will at least help other people not get had.

 

 

I read that paypal will do the refund for a $25 fee so I will only have to pay that much for the lesson!

 

 

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