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Dimentionally they look the same, but I could be wrong about that. What I want to know is, does the plain steel nib on the M205/M215 have the same properties as the M200 nib? My M200 nib is semi-flex and quite smooth, I would like to know if the plain steel nib on the M205 and M215 are the same in this respect.

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although im not sure but to my knowledge the M200 nib is simply a gold plated onto a steel nib while the M205/M215 is just a steel nib (w/o gold plating) . So i would image they are the same nib. Plz correct if im wrong...

 

Q ) but from users i would like to know also weather the M205/ M215 have "semi-flex"...

 

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Q ) but from users i would like to know also weather the M205/ M215 have "semi-flex"...

 

As far as I know most of the sub-M1000 Pelikan nibs are pretty rigid. My M640's nib certainly is.

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Q ) but from users i would like to know also weather the M205/ M215 have "semi-flex"...

 

As far as I know most of the sub-M1000 Pelikan nibs are pretty rigid. My M640's nib certainly is.

 

 

My Pelikan M200 is smooth, wet and has hint of flex. It may not be a flex nib, but it is far from being rigid.

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Dimentionally they look the same, but I could be wrong about that. What I want to know is, does the plain steel nib on the M205/M215 have the same properties as the M200 nib? My M200 nib is semi-flex and quite smooth, I would like to know if the plain steel nib on the M205 and M215 are the same in this respect.

 

 

I had the good fortune of trying both of them out at a local pen store. Yes, they were both the same let me assure you, and the steel nib even a tad smoother! But to the best of my memory, the steel medium nib also laid down a marginally thicker line than the gold plated medium nib. I hope that was helpful.

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I don't notice any particular difference between my M200 and M215 nibs, but mine have all been very firm. I couldn't call any of my Pelikan nibs semi-flex, or even slightly springy. They've all been very smooth, though.

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I have an M215 with EF nib and it is indeed semi-flex, but that could just be due to the nib's thinness. It is an amazing writer that produces a surprising amount of shading for such a small nib. I find the bit of flex to produce some beautiful line variation as well.

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I think your 200/205/215 nibs are only springy regular flex.

Semi-flex is a quite a different class of nib.

If one has been using modern semi-nail pens or nail pens the 'old fashioned' springy regular flex could be thought semi-flex.

Got 26 semi-flex.

have trans-mailed six 200/215 nibs to England. They impressed me. But are just nice springy regular flex.

I like them...will some day get a 215...not the 200 in I have a nice '90-97 400 with a nice springy regular flex and '50-65 400s and 140's with semi-flex and 'flexi'/maxi-semi-flex.

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I think your 200/205/215 nibs are only springy regular flex.

Semi-flex is a quite a different class of nib.

If one has been using modern semi-nail pens or nail pens the 'old fashioned' springy regular flex could be thought semi-flex.

Got 26 semi-flex.

have trans-mailed six 200/215 nibs to England. They impressed me. But are just nice springy regular flex.

I like them...will some day get a 215...not the 200 in I have a nice '90-97 400 with a nice springy regular flex and '50-65 400s and 140's with semi-flex and 'flexi'/maxi-semi-flex.

 

You are right. After using the m15 for a year and getting some exsperience with real flex pens, I would instead classify the 215 EF nib as a "soft" nib rather than semi-flex. It does not take much effort to get some line variation with it, but the springiness is nothing like any nib with genuine flex.

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I have the impression that the M200 nib differs only into being gold plated from the M205/M215.

 

I cannot speak about flex though since i am not experienced in that.

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Yes, the 215 nib costs more than the 205 nib because the 215 nib is rodium plated.

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Ah Ha.

Having true regular flex classified...as a 'soft' nib was new to me....I can see it if one has only had nails and semi-nails.

I could not....in I grew up with 'true' regular flex, make the jump to having true regular flex rated as 'soft'....thinking only of semi-flex in that category.

 

"Springy" like MB and Falcon has the tine bend of semi-flex but only a @ 2 X tine spread.

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Yes, the 215 nib costs more than the 205 nib because the 215 nib is rodium plated.

215 rodium plated, costing more?????? Doubts, biiig doubts

The M215 nib is not rhodium plated, just polished stainless steel (http://www.pelikan.com/pulse/Pulsar/en_US.FWI.displayShop.107681./classic-215-rhomb )

As far as I know the nibs on the M205 and M215 are exactly the same.

 

I agree with Bo Bo, the M215 and M20x nibs are springy, not semi-flex or soft (I would say my 140 nib is semi-flex and the M1000 is soft). There also seems to be a little bit of variation from nib to nib in the classic series, since some of mine are springier than others .

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The M215 nib is not rhodium plated, just polished stainless steel (http://www.pelikan.com/pulse/Pulsar/en_US.FWI.displayShop.107681./classic-215-rhomb )

As far as I know the M205 and M215 are exactly the same.

 

I agree with Bo Bo, the M215 and M20x nibs are springy, not semi-flex or soft (I would say my 140 nib is semi-flex and the M1000 is soft). There also seems to be a little bit of variation from nib to nib in the classic series, since some of mine are springier than others .

Agreed, the M205/215 nibs are polished steel. The M200 nibs are gold plated.

 

There is some variation in most of the modern nibs, both M2XX and the gold ones - some are springier than others.

None of them are really what you would term a flex nib compared to the old 140/400 nibs or even the early M400 nibs.

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The M215 nib is not rhodium plated, just polished stainless steel (http://www.pelikan.com/pulse/Pulsar/en_US.FWI.displayShop.107681./classic-215-rhomb )

As far as I know the M205 and M215 are exactly the same.

 

I agree with Bo Bo, the M215 and M20x nibs are springy, not semi-flex or soft (I would say my 140 nib is semi-flex and the M1000 is soft). There also seems to be a little bit of variation from nib to nib in the classic series, since some of mine are springier than others .

 

 

Agreed, the M205/215 nibs are polished steel. The M200 nibs are gold plated.

 

There is some variation in most of the modern nibs, both M2XX and the gold ones - some are springier than others.

None of them are really what you would term a flex nib compared to the old 140/400 nibs or even the early M400 nibs.

 

I agree with both of these statements. No rhodium plating on the M205 or M215 and springy is the best description for the M2XX nibs.

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I agree with both of these statements. No rhodium plating on the M205 or M215 and springy is the best description for the M2XX nibs.

+1 to the above.205 nibs are just polished steel, no plating and they have a springy feel.

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215 costs more because of the body, not the nib.

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I stand corrected. I don't remember where I heard about the rhodium plated-ness, obviously not a reliable source.

Thanks for clearing that up!

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