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#1 bluenotegrl

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Posted 07 November 2009 - 02:23

I was watching a PBS show on the Royals last night and they had the Queen writing at her desk. I could swear she was using a Parker 51.

Anybody else see it? Was it a 51?

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Posted 07 November 2009 - 02:33

I was watching a PBS show on the Royals last night and they had the Queen writing at her desk. I could swear she was using a Parker 51.

Anybody else see it? Was it a 51?

Cheers!


If memory serves, I believe Parker has/had a royal warrant to deliver pens & ink to the royal family. However, as for solid evidence, I don't know. I've heard her father, George VI, used a Wyvern fountain pen, and gave them out as gifts.
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Posted 07 November 2009 - 03:10

Her Britannic Majesty Elizabeth II and the British Royal Household awarded Parker the Royal Warrant as its sole supplier of pens and inks in 1962. I understand The Queen prefers simple unadorned pens and one is always inked and waiting inside her famous multi-tasking purse.
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Posted 07 November 2009 - 05:01

Her Majesty uses a Burgundy Parker 51 which she has had since the 50'sit has a Gold-filled cap,[Not as some people might believe solid gold.] This is not my opinion, this is a fact.Don't ask me how I know, I just do O.K.?
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Posted 07 November 2009 - 05:11

Her Majesty uses a Burgundy Parker 51 which she has had since the 50'sit has a Gold-filled cap,[Not as some people might believe solid gold.] This is not my opinion, this is a fact.Don't ask me how I know, I just do O.K.?
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Well, that is another pen on my list. I have a great deal of respect for Her Majesty.
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Posted 07 November 2009 - 05:21

Good for you,she's a great lady! Great taste in pens, pretty good taste in pretty well everything come to think of it! but then she can afford to be. It is a good job that she does have such a reliable fountain pen, virtually no need to be 'serviced'
just a quick flush-out periodically; particularly seeing as how Parker in their wisdom will not service pens over 15 years old. Although if they were ever confronted with a royal request to have a service done I'm sure that they would dig out one of their old employees to do it for her!!!
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Posted 07 November 2009 - 06:13

So, Truffle Finder - we now consult you instead of The Oracle!!!???
Nice to know Her Maj uses Parkers, and I hear that she used a gold 'Raindrop' design for something important when she had to sign........but can you imagine her signing anything that wasn't important - silly me?!
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Posted 07 November 2009 - 07:57

The Conway Stewart site has a Testimonials page where Her Majesty The Queens accepts the gift of a CS.

Also Testimonials from Bill Clinton and Tony Blair

http://www.conwayste...bcc1f7f697ce4aa

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Posted 07 November 2009 - 11:17

Holy cow!

My 51 is burgundy too!! Unfortunately (well not all that sad) I must say that the cap is steel. No gold.

BTW I have always called this thing "Ike". Guess I'll have to rename same.

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Posted 07 November 2009 - 17:37

The Conway Stewart site has a Testimonials page where Her Majesty The Queens accepts the gift of a CS.

Also Testimonials from Bill Clinton and Tony Blair

http://www.conwayste...bcc1f7f697ce4aa


Seems like a bit of social climbing and name dropping. I note, however, Her Majesty's concern that the pens be "...practical, working pens" and not "...more for decorative use"; good for her.
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Posted 07 November 2009 - 18:03

The Queen knows what's up! What kind of Ink does she use?

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Posted 07 November 2009 - 18:19

I'm sure Her Madge will accept any number of things by way of supporting British industry, but actually using them would be another matter. I think a modern Conway would be far too ostentatious, whereas a burgundy '51' Classic from the 50s would be about right - probably recently supplemented by 'something of Mummy's' - which in fact would be a Cross fountain pen!

I know this is quite shocking, but the Queen Mother (in spite of being mercilessly pestered ,as the royal family seem doomed to be, by Conway Stewart (poor soul, in her case they tried it on with a Plumage)) preferred a Cross for her crosswords. Moreover, for her 100th birthday party invitations, she chose American made Crane stationery! The UK has any number of quality papermakers, so as you can imagine, this information has made me go and have a lie down. Truly a scandal, Special Relationship notwithstanding. Thankfully, the Queen is a Smythson gal and quite right too.

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Posted 07 November 2009 - 22:00

Very practical, no messing with flex and stub:

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Posted 07 November 2009 - 23:42

And what if, just what if, HM is using ballpoints? :)


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Posted 08 November 2009 - 00:48

Ok, now you have me wondering.

What happens if (now yes, I KNOW this is a 51 so it would be unlikely) Her Majesty's pen requires some repair? I wonder if Parker would tell HER, "We're sorry Your Majesty, but parts for your pen are no longer available, we'll be glad to send you this lovely Parker Sonnet as a replacment..." :lol:

I wonder if she just has a bleedin' trunk load of identical NOS ones to toss the bruised one like a bic and grab a new one if need be?

Perhaps there's a Royal Binder on retainer for her pen needs...
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Posted 08 November 2009 - 01:19

While we're all being Anglophiles, here's more vintage footage of HM The Queen cut into 2006 BBC coverage from the Royal Albert Hall of the Last Night of the Proms - one of the best attended classical concerts on the planet. Elgar's Pomp & Circumstance March processes most American High Schoolers at Commencement Ceremonies. I doubt many realize they are graduating to the marshal strains of a British Anthem extolling the expansion of the Empire.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THYgeETrkPs

Edited by yachtsilverswan, 08 November 2009 - 01:21.

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 11:06

Conway Stewart have a habit of trying to give gifts for the Royal Family. They are only after the Royal Warrant so they can use it in their marketing strategy to try and convince more people to buy one of their overpriced creations! Prince Charles politely refused one of their pens too, as the modern company does not seem to have a solid environmental policy, a subject close to the Prince's heart.

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 11:22

Ok, now you have me wondering.

What happens if (now yes, I KNOW this is a 51 so it would be unlikely) Her Majesty's pen requires some repair? I wonder if Parker would tell HER, "We're sorry Your Majesty, but parts for your pen are no longer available, we'll be glad to send you this lovely Parker Sonnet as a replacment..." :lol:

I wonder if she just has a bleedin' trunk load of identical NOS ones to toss the bruised one like a bic and grab a new one if need be?

Perhaps there's a Royal Binder on retainer for her pen needs...
;)

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So that when you want your Parker 51 repaired by Parker (no laughing in the back) you can say, "if HM the Queen wanted her Parker 51 repairing, would you do it?"

"Yes of course, we have someone who has been here 35 years, he would repair it"

"well, hers is working fine, your man can fix my 51 whilst he has nothing to do"

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 12:28

Prince Charles politely refused one of their pens too...

Any evidence of this?
It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of nothing at all...

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 20:02

Her Majesty uses a Burgundy Parker 51 which she has had since the 50'sit has a Gold-filled cap,[Not as some people might believe solid gold.] This is not my opinion, this is a fact.Don't ask me how I know, I just do O.K.?
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At the very end of the "Inside the Firm" episode, HM is seen writing up close (VERY up close) for maybe 3 seconds.

It does in fact appear to be with a burgundy P-51. (Can't verify the GFC, they only showed from the nib up a couple inches
to her fingers.)

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 21:38

Hi -- But what ink/s does Her Majesty use? -- BR S1 (Oh, I've emailed the white house to ask what inks are used for signing stuff, so this is a relevant question - in my mind anyway.) S1

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 23:04

Goodness; this topic is becoming as popular as a Lamy 2000 thread
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Posted 08 November 2009 - 23:36


Her Majesty uses a Burgundy Parker 51 which she has had since the 50'sit has a Gold-filled cap,[Not as some people might believe solid gold.] This is not my opinion, this is a fact.Don't ask me how I know, I just do O.K.?
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At the very end of the "Inside the Firm" episode, HM is seen writing up close (VERY up close) for maybe 3 seconds.

It does in fact appear to be with a burgundy P-51. (Can't verify the GFC, they only showed from the nib up a couple inches
to her fingers.)

Bruce in Ocala, FL


Could it possibly have been a P61...?

Though ive only seen black ones before, so maybe not if it was burgandy.

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 09:59

Not sure about what Parker pen HRM writes with, but I loved the Elgar piece played at the proms. I spent 5 days staying a few blocks from Prince Albert Hall a few years ago, but never saw a concert there.

However, the thought of any person writing with the same "51" for almost 60 years is very heartwarming.

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 16:48

Could it possibly have been a P61...?

Though ive only seen black ones before, so maybe not if it was burgandy.

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No, unfortunately not. It's definitely a P51. The shape was wrong for a P61 & I doubt that the arrow would be allowed to fall out & not be visible.

The British burgundy P51 & 61's are nearly the same colour, but the P51 retains its lustre much better, because the P61 plastic is soft & scratches up badly.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 12:47

If anyone wanted confirmation of this, the first episode of "The Diamond Queen", currently available on iPlayer online (http://www.bbc.co.uk...ueen_Episode_1/), has several seconds of close-up on the Queen whilst dealing with paperwork, including a close-up of what looks very much to me like a burgundy P51 with a silver or rolled gold cap:

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For anyone with access to iPlayer who wants to inspect, you want to go to about 35 minutes in!

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 14:26

Hi all, Anyone interested in what the Royal family writes with, two more views were shown on the second of three programs, this time views were on the Royal yacht 'Britannia'. One was a view of a black pen with gold band on the cap, the other was of a multi-coloured pen, red/black, with gold fittings. I can't identify them, others might.