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Posted 13 November 2009 - 11:48


Speedy, I'd reckon your first lot is sold-out ;)

If everything goes well, we may have found a potential supplier for a future FPN LE pen...


Who better to supply an FPN pen than an FPN member?

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 12:48

don't forget to post the ebay address here so we can jump on board!
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 17:31

A direct sale here on FPN would be even better...!

I really like your work speedy.

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 20:54

A direct sale here on FPN would be even better...!

I really like your work speedy.


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Posted 13 November 2009 - 21:42

I'll second (or other ordinal of your choice) that...
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Posted 14 November 2009 - 08:14

I can't wait!!!
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Posted 16 November 2009 - 08:55

a little more update.

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 10:53

That pen looks better and better. Transparency suits it.
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Posted 16 November 2009 - 11:01

Hi I am a fountain pen user, also a pen maker.
I am developing an inexpensive piston ink feeding system FP. This project is actually a discussion result with Taiwan and China fountain pen users, kind of build by users wish list. This is a very interesting project, many ideas are from the web friends, even the red logo mark you are seeing is from these friends.

I have a forum showing the progress of this project, unfortunately it is only in Chinese, but it does have some photos that everybody can understand, hahaha!

In some of those pictures you will see the piston system made by brass then aluminum (weight different reason). But the real basic version these piston parts will be made by plastic, for both cost and weight reason. The aluminum version will be used in higher grade version in the future.

The tooling for plastic parts are in process; this project has been running for about three or four months. All the toolings are scheduled for test end of this month, Oct., expect the plastic packaging box. Early next month we will perform the fountioning test, then debug... Let's cross the finges, if everthing thing goes smooth, it should be ready to go on market within three months.

By the way, the target retail price for this pen is US$35-40/pen. When available, I will sell it on ebay first.

this link shows the latest update
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this link shows the packaging design
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this link shows the nib graphic design
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this link shows the piston system sampling
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Just wanted to see the picture again.

And maybe ask the same thing everyone else here is asking. Can I have one? I'll pay for it. But, only if you and your design team sign it personally.

Yeah that's it, could I get one hand signed by you and your design team? And maybe one that I could use also? Will there be one with a 14k nib that I can turn into a XXXF Full flex? If so I want one of those as well.

Christmas is coming up, will our pens be ready by then?

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 14:52

Hi Flourish,

for sure you will be able to buy it. I will put it in ebay...

I am so flattered that you want our team to sign it, hahaha!

the 14K nib and other nib size will be future steps; after the pen is well accepted by all of you. if people don't like it, then to prepare all the options the cost will be too high for us.

I am sorry that we won't be able to catch up the Christmas time, because further fine tune on parts and tooling and writing performance test is needed.
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Posted 16 November 2009 - 15:59

So much fun following this thread and seeing new developments as they happen! I, like others, wish you would consider selling here on FPN, not just eBay.
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 00:21

Hi, if you need someone to test-drive your pens, I'm available! :-)

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Posted 17 November 2009 - 00:55

Hi Flourish,

for sure you will be able to buy it. I will put it in ebay...

I am so flattered that you want our team to sign it, hahaha!

the 14K nib and other nib size will be future steps; after the pen is well accepted by all of you. if people don't like it, then to prepare all the options the cost will be too high for us.

I am sorry that we won't be able to catch up the Christmas time, because further fine tune on parts and tooling and writing performance test is needed.


Writing performance test you say.

I do believe that there are a few of us on the FPN that would be more than willing to help you perform such tests. I for one, as an example have been known to write sixteen pages a day. I also have been know to draw many pictures on a daily basis.

And of course I want your team to sign my new TWSBI pen(s). You have put a lot of work into your pens and best of all you have shared it with us. You're family now. And as family we here on the FPN will continue to ask many questions and request more photos of your pen's progress. We want to adopt your pens and not just own them. And when one adopts they get to sign papers with lots of names (yours) and dates (the date the pen was born on) and of course the rules of care and use (the manual).

Maybe if we bug you enough you will even make a special FPN Edition just for us?

Edited by Flourish, 17 November 2009 - 00:57.


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Posted 17 November 2009 - 02:29


Hi Flourish,

for sure you will be able to buy it. I will put it in ebay...

I am so flattered that you want our team to sign it, hahaha!

the 14K nib and other nib size will be future steps; after the pen is well accepted by all of you. if people don't like it, then to prepare all the options the cost will be too high for us.

I am sorry that we won't be able to catch up the Christmas time, because further fine tune on parts and tooling and writing performance test is needed.


Writing performance test you say.

I do believe that there are a few of us on the FPN that would be more than willing to help you perform such tests. I for one, as an example have been known to write sixteen pages a day. I also have been know to draw many pictures on a daily basis.

And of course I want your team to sign my new TWSBI pen(s). You have put a lot of work into your pens and best of all you have shared it with us. You're family now. And as family we here on the FPN will continue to ask many questions and request more photos of your pen's progress. We want to adopt your pens and not just own them. And when one adopts they get to sign papers with lots of names (yours) and dates (the date the pen was born on) and of course the rules of care and use (the manual).

Maybe if we bug you enough you will even make a special FPN Edition just for us?


As a new member of the family, I will sign the pen (in the paper?) for the family member. But you need to prepare the content of the paper for me, since my English is not good enough to write it, hahaha!

I can prepare a special version for FPN (like special laser engraving on the cap big metal ring (in the middle of the pen)). But if we want to do this, we need to do it at one time, when we collect enough people (number) to make this engraving at one time.
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 09:23

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As a new member of the family, I will sign the pen (in the paper?) for the family member. But you need to prepare the content of the paper for me, since my English is not good enough to write it, hahaha!

I can prepare a special version for FPN (like special laser engraving on the cap big metal ring (in the middle of the pen)). But if we want to do this, we need to do it at one time, when we collect enough people (number) to make this engraving at one time.
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How many is "enough people"? It would be useful to have an indication.

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Posted 17 November 2009 - 09:31

I am sorry that we won't be able to catch up the Christmas time, because further fine tune on parts and tooling and writing performance test is needed.


Any chance of it being ready for Chinese New Year? I think a demonstrator filled with red ink would be a great way to celebrate.

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Posted 17 November 2009 - 10:32



Hi Flourish,

for sure you will be able to buy it. I will put it in ebay...

I am so flattered that you want our team to sign it, hahaha!

the 14K nib and other nib size will be future steps; after the pen is well accepted by all of you. if people don't like it, then to prepare all the options the cost will be too high for us.

I am sorry that we won't be able to catch up the Christmas time, because further fine tune on parts and tooling and writing performance test is needed.


Writing performance test you say.

I do believe that there are a few of us on the FPN that would be more than willing to help you perform such tests. I for one, as an example have been known to write sixteen pages a day. I also have been know to draw many pictures on a daily basis.

And of course I want your team to sign my new TWSBI pen(s). You have put a lot of work into your pens and best of all you have shared it with us. You're family now. And as family we here on the FPN will continue to ask many questions and request more photos of your pen's progress. We want to adopt your pens and not just own them. And when one adopts they get to sign papers with lots of names (yours) and dates (the date the pen was born on) and of course the rules of care and use (the manual).

Maybe if we bug you enough you will even make a special FPN Edition just for us?


As a new member of the family, I will sign the pen (in the paper?) for the family member. But you need to prepare the content of the paper for me, since my English is not good enough to write it, hahaha!

I can prepare a special version for FPN (like special laser engraving on the cap big metal ring (in the middle of the pen)). But if we want to do this, we need to do it at one time, when we collect enough people (number) to make this engraving at one time.


If you would like I can prepare the manual for you, even though your English is good. I've always been pretty good at writing instructions, manuals, how to books and the like. I actually went to school for it. You would have to write the Chinese instructions though as I'm afraid that I don't know any of the dialects and I don't know if one of the internet translation sites would be able to do a good enough job. Your TWSBI website already shows that you've got a good photographer and your design illustrations are very good so you can do a better job of it to get the exact look that you want. You would just need to send me a pen, no kidding this time, and a list of everything that you would like covered and I could have a couple of proofs done up for you in no time at all.

You could just sign the paper if you like. But, if we can talk you into doing an FPN TWSBI edition maybe you should engrave you name on the pen somewhere.

Since you're family now, what time is dinner? And, what are we having?

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Posted 17 November 2009 - 13:53

I made a DV to show how to assemble and disassemble the Diamond fountain pen. I use the firt sample I have on hand, it is not a perfect one yet. On the film the final position of the piston after assembly is not correct. don't worry about it.

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Posted 17 November 2009 - 14:14




Hi Flourish,

for sure you will be able to buy it. I will put it in ebay...

I am so flattered that you want our team to sign it, hahaha!

the 14K nib and other nib size will be future steps; after the pen is well accepted by all of you. if people don't like it, then to prepare all the options the cost will be too high for us.

I am sorry that we won't be able to catch up the Christmas time, because further fine tune on parts and tooling and writing performance test is needed.


Writing performance test you say.

I do believe that there are a few of us on the FPN that would be more than willing to help you perform such tests. I for one, as an example have been known to write sixteen pages a day. I also have been know to draw many pictures on a daily basis.

And of course I want your team to sign my new TWSBI pen(s). You have put a lot of work into your pens and best of all you have shared it with us. You're family now. And as family we here on the FPN will continue to ask many questions and request more photos of your pen's progress. We want to adopt your pens and not just own them. And when one adopts they get to sign papers with lots of names (yours) and dates (the date the pen was born on) and of course the rules of care and use (the manual).

Maybe if we bug you enough you will even make a special FPN Edition just for us?


As a new member of the family, I will sign the pen (in the paper?) for the family member. But you need to prepare the content of the paper for me, since my English is not good enough to write it, hahaha!

I can prepare a special version for FPN (like special laser engraving on the cap big metal ring (in the middle of the pen)). But if we want to do this, we need to do it at one time, when we collect enough people (number) to make this engraving at one time.


If you would like I can prepare the manual for you, even though your English is good. I've always been pretty good at writing instructions, manuals, how to books and the like. I actually went to school for it. You would have to write the Chinese instructions though as I'm afraid that I don't know any of the dialects and I don't know if one of the internet translation sites would be able to do a good enough job. Your TWSBI website already shows that you've got a good photographer and your design illustrations are very good so you can do a better job of it to get the exact look that you want. You would just need to send me a pen, no kidding this time, and a list of everything that you would like covered and I could have a couple of proofs done up for you in no time at all.

You could just sign the paper if you like. But, if we can talk you into doing an FPN TWSBI edition maybe you should engrave you name on the pen somewhere.

Since you're family now, what time is dinner? And, what are we having?

wow, this is great, when the good sample pen is ready I will send you one for you to prepare the instructions and manual.

As for the dinner, when we meet one day, we can go to whatever you like to have. haha!
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 17:23

What kind of tests have you run on the section? I'd be concerned that a screw on section might lead to leaks at the section. Great looking pen. I'd definitely consider buying it. :)

ETA: well if there is a non-demonstrator version. ;)

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Posted 17 November 2009 - 21:40

Just watched the vid on disassembly-very cool. I will take one plain and one of the FPN variety as soon as possible.
Watching this thread has been very interesting and does give one some small feeling of being 'involved' in the project.

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Posted 17 November 2009 - 23:48

Speedy said,

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wow, this is great, when the good sample pen is ready I will send you one for you to prepare the instructions and manual.

As for the dinner, when we meet one day, we can go to whatever you like to have. haha!
[/quote]

I really like your new video. As soon as I get any new pen I like to completely disassemble it to get a feel for its care maintenance and possible uses, and here you've already shown us how to do it before we can even get our hands on one of your pens. I hope that you will include the little wrench with the pen as no other pen company has done so as far as I know and those of us who like to take care of our own pens have had to devise and make many of our own tools. The inclusion of that little wrench could also be a huge selling point with us fiddly types.

If you are really interested in having me help prepare your manual, which I am more than happy to do, as well as the pen I would need copies of the photos and illustrations that you would like included and also the size and format that you would need to take to the printer. I would also need to know the printing process that you choose to use as well as the paper type and ink (1 color, 2 color or 4 color process for example). Then there is the information that you would like to see in the manual; history of your company, company logos and associated illustrations, founder and employee photos, materials and manufacturing processes used, inspirations for ways to use the pen as well as the care and maintenance of the pen. To help figure out how you would like to present your instruction manual to your customers might I suggest that you look at the instruction manuals of other pen companies, Stipula for example has a very good instruction manual while Hero's manual, if one is included with the pen, is very basic. And the Nakaya pen catalogue is perhaps the most beautiful pen catalog that I have seen and well worth taking a look at for inspiration on how to present your pens to he public. I think that a pen like yours deserves a manual as well thought out and executed as the pen itself. With this information I could return to you the best instruction manual that is within my capabilities.

As for dinner I hope you don't mind Chinese. Hahaha. I'll make it on top of the mountain so at least the atmosphere will be different, and my recipes due tend to be more southern and influenced by Thai, Korean and Japanese tastes and techniques (I grew up in a multicultural neighborhood). But you might actually prefer Native American, Southern or traditional New Mexican food so we could have that instead. I like to cook even more than I like to play with fountain pens.

Edited by Flourish, 18 November 2009 - 00:49.


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Posted 17 November 2009 - 23:57

Really interested in this pen, even more after seeing the video. I think I'll buy one or two when available; they look great for school.
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Posted 18 November 2009 - 06:45

I created a blog you can subscribe, make it easy to follow up with the latest update.

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 06:56

What kind of tests have you run on the section? I'd be concerned that a screw on section might lead to leaks at the section. Great looking pen. I'd definitely consider buying it. :)

ETA: well if there is a non-demonstrator version. ;)

Next week I should get the one cavity fast tooling parts from my China factory, by then we are able to assembly a complete pen to run all the test. I notice your concern about from section leaking issue. We will use o-ring... air lead test... to make sue this won't be an issue.
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Posted 18 November 2009 - 06:58

Just watched the vid on disassembly-very cool. I will take one plain and one of the FPN variety as soon as possible.
Watching this thread has been very interesting and does give one some small feeling of being 'involved' in the project.


Get everyone involve is the fun part of this project. We will "Keep Walking" this way in the future projects.
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Posted 18 November 2009 - 08:10

[quote name='Flourish' date='18 November 2009 - 07:48 AM' timestamp='1258501683' post='1306239']
Speedy said,

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wow, this is great, when the good sample pen is ready I will send you one for you to prepare the instructions and manual.

As for the dinner, when we meet one day, we can go to whatever you like to have. haha!
[/quote]

I really like your new video. As soon as I get any new pen I like to completely disassemble it to get a feel for its care maintenance and possible uses, and here you've already shown us how to do it before we can even get our hands on one of your pens. I hope that you will include the little wrench with the pen as no other pen company has done so as far as I know and those of us who like to take care of our own pens have had to devise and make many of our own tools. The inclusion of that little wrench could also be a huge selling point with us fiddly types.

If you are really interested in having me help prepare your manual, which I am more than happy to do, as well as the pen I would need copies of the photos and illustrations that you would like included and also the size and format that you would need to take to the printer. I would also need to know the printing process that you choose to use as well as the paper type and ink (1 color, 2 color or 4 color process for example). Then there is the information that you would like to see in the manual; history of your company, company logos and associated illustrations, founder and employee photos, materials and manufacturing processes used, inspirations for ways to use the pen as well as the care and maintenance of the pen. To help figure out how you would like to present your instruction manual to your customers might I suggest that you look at the instruction manuals of other pen companies, Stipula for example has a very good instruction manual while Hero's manual, if one is included with the pen, is very basic. And the Nakaya pen catalogue is perhaps the most beautiful pen catalog that I have seen and well worth taking a look at for inspiration on how to present your pens to he public. I think that a pen like yours deserves a manual as well thought out and executed as the pen itself. With this information I could return to you the best instruction manual that is within my capabilities.

As for dinner I hope you don't mind Chinese. Hahaha. I'll make it on top of the mountain so at least the atmosphere will be different, and my recipes due tend to be more southern and influenced by Thai, Korean and Japanese tastes and techniques (I grew up in a multicultural neighborhood). But you might actually prefer Native American, Southern or traditional New Mexican food so we could have that instead. I like to cook even more than I like to play with fountain pens.
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Flourish,

I will spend some time to study you comment above then come back to you. Thanks.
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Posted 18 November 2009 - 11:18

Speedy,

I do believe that you have created the third most addictive fountain pen website and blog on the internet. Your website and blog keeping us informed of the whole process of how a pen goes from design to testing is just about the best thing a fountain pen lover could hope for. I am absolutely fascinated by reading and watching how your pen is coming along.

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 15:22

What kind of tests have you run on the section? I'd be concerned that a screw on section might lead to leaks at the section. Great looking pen. I'd definitely consider buying it. :)

ETA: well if there is a non-demonstrator version. ;)

Non-demonstrator version will be available in the future.
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Posted 21 November 2009 - 01:52

Judging by all of our positive reactions here maybe you should think about starting a pen of the month club at TWSBI. You know maybe a nice little gift basket with a pen, a bottle of ink, some nice paper, a coffee mug and 5 pounds of the darkest roast coffee, or tea for us tea drinkers, so we can stay awake all night trying out the new pens.