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#221 speedy

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 16:43

Thanks for the new instructions - where to put the grease is now clear to me - and of course for the lovely photographs!

On "ass'y" for "assembly" - it looks odd to me, but maybe it's a technical drawing thing? Probably better to spell it in full.

Also, on the bottom of the box, "reduce waste" and "save the earth" (="save Earth," the planet, because "save earth" - without "the" - suggests collecting soil - tricky use of English, this one!).

The 750 is the vacuum filler, right? Will probably end up with one several of those, too!

will change ass'y to assembly, also reduce waste, save the earth. Thanks.
The 750 is not vacuum, it is still piston filling but larger in size.
The vacuum is another project in process, TWSBI PP007
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Can someone suggest a good name for this PP007 (our internal code). It is Diamond series (due to the diamond shape) but with vacuum system. I am not sure how to call it.




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Posted 09 April 2010 - 16:48

No problem with the mechanical pencil: there are plenty of us who enjoy a good mechanical pencil almost as much as we love our fountain pens.

That looks like my kind of MP: any time frame on availability?

This MP is almost done, just finalize the clip and barrel artwork; clip by laser, barrel by screen printing. but I need to get the blister package prepared. I should push it so it can come on market same time as Diamond.
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Posted 09 April 2010 - 16:53

No problem with the mechanical pencil: there are plenty of us who enjoy a good mechanical pencil almost as much as we love our fountain pens.

That looks like my kind of MP: any time frame on availability?

7 & 8 go inside bottom of barrel, 8 will connect with 2. The 8 is called feeder adaptor (mis typing). Thanks for finding this out for me. I rush out the posting before left office when my guy just pass the work to me. I did not fully check.
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Posted 09 April 2010 - 17:03

I like the pencils, too. It looks like you took the best of the iconic Rotring 600, which unfortunately is no longer made, and the Caran D'Ache Metal pencils, which are sturdy but have the look and feel of real wooden pencils. Both are favorites of myself and many others.

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How much will you suggest will be a good retail price for this MP? it is all metal parts except inner lead tank.
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Posted 09 April 2010 - 17:07

7 & 8 go inside bottom of barrel, 8 will connect with 2. The 8 is called feeder adaptor (mis typing). Thanks for finding this out for me. I rush out the posting before left office when my guy just pass the work to me. I did not fully check.


Thanks Speedy! Well engineered pen!

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 17:07

I've just learned of this TWSBI phenomenon, thanks to an off-hand comment in another thread (and a helpful pointer here). This looks fantastic! I am truly impressed. I'm thrilled to see a new pen being born, and that it's happening here makes it even more special. I hope you will meet with great success -- and I hope I'm lucky enough to land one of those first-run pens when they're offered! :D

Congratulations on winning the Red Dot Award!

And, looking around your website, I'm amazed to see that you have a vacuum-filler in development as well. It's beautiful! Your pens look equally elegant as demonstrators and opaque models. I already want one of each variety!

You're trying to bankrupt me, aren't you? :lol:

haha, don't worry, my pens are very affordable, not expensive.
Twsbi is trying to make the "best value" pens so most of the pen lover can afford to to have them.


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Posted 09 April 2010 - 17:13

In the second to last panel, I'm not sure what you mean by a "benchmark" filling mechanism. Perhaps something like "The TWSBI 530 comes with a piston filling system for the optimal combination of ink capacity and ease of filling." or "With its piston filling system, the TWSBI 530 raises the bar for ink capacity."

Out of curiosity, where are you getting the numbers (530, 750)?

As for the PP007, you could make a gold version and call it the "Man with the Golden Pen" or the "Ian Fleming Edition."

Forgot to add, it looks great, can't wait to get my hands on one.

Edited by Feanor, 09 April 2010 - 17:13.


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Posted 09 April 2010 - 17:32

When are they coming out?! I would love to have one before exams come...

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 18:59

Names for series? Hmmm...what about celestial bodies? Ganymede, Io, Callisto, that sort of thing?
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Posted 09 April 2010 - 20:20

I like orangos's idea the celestial bodies names would be interesting especially if you go into different models with the piston and vacuum fillers. I think you could also go along with names from the zodiac like libra or tauros, omitting cancer because that would be a depressing name for a pen. Anyways thats my two cents.
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Posted 09 April 2010 - 21:22

How much will you suggest will be a good retail price for this MP? it is all metal parts except inner lead tank.

The production cost + transport cost + food for Speedy + food for the retailer.

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 00:07

How much will you suggest will be a good retail price for this MP? it is all metal parts except inner lead tank.

The production cost + transport cost + food for Speedy + food for the retailer.

... also need to add some money for the charity

Edited by speedy, 10 April 2010 - 00:08.

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 01:53

How much will you suggest will be a good retail price for this MP? it is all metal parts except inner lead tank.

The production cost + transport cost + food for Speedy + food for the retailer.

... also need to add some money for the charity


To give you an idea of the rest of the market, the Caran d'Ache Metal pencil is about $20. The Rotring 600 is now out of production. I believe I paid $30-40 when I bought mine a number of years ago. Levenger sells an all metal Rotring 600 look alike (L-Tech) for $58. Most people would wait for their 20% off sale or buy them on their ebay outlet for less.

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 04:21

How much will you suggest will be a good retail price for this MP? it is all metal parts except inner lead tank.

The production cost + transport cost + food for Speedy + food for the retailer.

... also need to add some money for the charity


To give you an idea of the rest of the market, the Caran d'Ache Metal pencil is about $20. The Rotring 600 is now out of production. I believe I paid $30-40 when I bought mine a number of years ago. Levenger sells an all metal Rotring 600 look alike (L-Tech) for $58. Most people would wait for their 20% off sale or buy them on their ebay outlet for less.

Dave


Thanks Dave. I think my price will be lower then these pens. It should be $20 or under.
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 04:25

In the second to last panel, I'm not sure what you mean by a "benchmark" filling mechanism. Perhaps something like "The TWSBI 530 comes with a piston filling system for the optimal combination of ink capacity and ease of filling." or "With its piston filling system, the TWSBI 530 raises the bar for ink capacity."

Out of curiosity, where are you getting the numbers (530, 750)?

As for the PP007, you could make a gold version and call it the "Man with the Golden Pen" or the "Ian Fleming Edition."

Forgot to add, it looks great, can't wait to get my hands on one.


"benchmark" in here meaning "piston filling mechanism" in general

The number idea came from car manufacturer, like BMW 530... haha
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 04:26

When are they coming out?! I would love to have one before exams come...

we try to get it out before end of June. Let's cross the fingers
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 07:01

Want, want, want! :notworthy1:

Any chance of prototypes at the Chicago Pen Show?

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 11:44

When are they coming out?! I would love to have one before exams come...

we try to get it out before end of June. Let's cross the fingers

Oh no that's after all my exams finish :(

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 15:43

I just figure out a name for the PP007 vacuum filling pen. I want to call it Diamond V7. V means vacuum filling, 7 is the large size nib it will use.

Diamond series: has diamond shape on cap or barrel
Piston filling system: 530, 750......
Vacuum filling system: V7......
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 13:23

I just figure out a name for the PP007 vacuum filling pen. I want to call it Diamond V7. V means vacuum filling, 7 is the large size nib it will use.

Diamond series: has diamond shape on cap or barrel
Piston filling system: 530, 750......
Vacuum filling system: V7......




Speedy, I like the idea of having Diamond Series + Model number. It works well since you have space on the really wide, and really nice cap-band.


Also, the Diamond logo in red on the top of the cap is extremely eye-catching and should help build brand. I always recognize people carrying pens in their shirts on the MRT:

Wire Clips - Lamy
Snowflake - Mont Blanc
Distinctive shape - Pilot Myu series Posted Image
Crescent clip - Visconti

The red diamond is going to stick out as shirt-pocket jewelry.
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