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#1 Gran

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 01:21

Someone posted a link to this pen site: http://www.xFountain...en-Ink-s/27.htm

I took a look and found Chesterfield ink. Anyone know anything about this ink?

I couldn't find anything on the web about it.

Thanks.
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 01:23

QUOTE (Gran @ Apr 18 2009, 02:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Someone posted a link to this pen site: http://www.xFountain...en-Ink-s/27.htm

I took a look and found Chesterfield ink. Anyone know anything about this ink?

I couldn't find anything on the web about it.

Thanks.


Well, I'm just about to find out. I'm expecting two bottles to arrive any day now.
Stay tuned...

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 01:24

Tom, thanks. The bottles look like little jars of jam.
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 01:58

Some of those colors do look quite nice. Please keep us posted.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 04:34

QUOTE (Gran @ Apr 17 2009, 06:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Someone posted a link to this pen site: http://www.xFountain...en-Ink-s/27.htm

I took a look and found Chesterfield ink. Anyone know anything about this ink?

I couldn't find anything on the web about it.

Thanks.



Ooooh the Cobalt, Fire Opal and Teal look interesting...
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Posted 19 April 2009 - 22:56

I sent an email to XFountainpens.com asking about them. I am really interested in fountain pens, and ink from the United Kingdom, and would love to know more about them, and/or visit their website. It is surprising that no other dealer sells this ink though, especially the UK based stores, which makes me wonder if this ink is a relabeled brand name ink, perhaps from Diamine. Their colors are very interesting indeed and price very reasonable.

Edited by JakobS, 19 April 2009 - 22:57.

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 23:49

From the top of the linked website:

"Fill your fountain pens with this premium grade fountain pen ink from Private Reserve. These inks are specially formulated for smooth flow and excellent coverage."(emphasis added)

So Chesterfield is privately branded PR.

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 00:20

QUOTE (mousestalker @ Apr 19 2009, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From the top of the linked website:

"Fill your fountain pens with this premium grade fountain pen ink from Private Reserve. These inks are specially formulated for smooth flow and excellent coverage."(emphasis added)

So Chesterfield is privately branded PR.

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They say it is from the United Kingdom, Private reserve is made in the US. I think that was linking to something else originally.
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Posted 20 April 2009 - 01:18

QUOTE (JakobS @ Apr 19 2009, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (mousestalker @ Apr 19 2009, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From the top of the linked website:

"Fill your fountain pens with this premium grade fountain pen ink from Private Reserve. These inks are specially formulated for smooth flow and excellent coverage."(emphasis added)

So Chesterfield is privately branded PR.

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They say it is from the United Kingdom, Private reserve is made in the US. I think that was linking to something else originally.

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They are in Pennsylvania, but if they are importing from UK, they are selling at a good price. Hmm...those bottles *are* cute...

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 04:54

The scans, if accurate, don't look like PR or Diamine to me. Has anyone contacted the site?

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 05:07

QUOTE (Jimmy James @ Apr 19 2009, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The scans, if accurate, don't look like PR or Diamine to me. Has anyone contacted the site?


I sent an email this afternoon asking about the ink, and if they could refer me to the ink makers website as I could not find one. Hopefully, I will hear back in the next few days. Very interesting, and I agree a number of the inks don't seem to imitate any ink from a ink maker that I have seen, but because UK fountain pen stores, at least with an online presence, do not seem to sell it, it made me wonder if it's being made in the UK would mean relabeled by Diamine, the blues in the line do appear to be very similar to many of Diamine's. As well, their being PH neutral is interesting, as I have not heard of Diamine stating that their inks to be so, and would love them to be their own ink company indeed! I will post xfountainpens.com response when I receive one.

Edited by JakobS, 20 April 2009 - 05:16.

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 15:43

Umm...so wow, my thoughts were right, a little surprised, but I did feel they looked more like diamine inks than any other. The response from xfountainpens.com follows:

Hi Andrew,

Thank you for your note. Diamine Inks manufactures the ink and it is bottled here in the states under the Chesterfield label. Night Sapphire is Blue Black.

http://www.diamineinks.co.uk/

Thank you for your note and please let me know if I may be of any additional assistance.

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 16:42

I went ahead and ordered their cobalt and ruby inks. I'm curious to see if they compare to the one Diamine labeled ink that I already have. I'm also curious as to the quality of their products generally as they list very good prices.

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 17:52

Thanks for clearing that up!
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 02:29

It looks to me like this site has entered into private label agreements with Diamine and one or more of the Chinese manufacturers (those pens look like the Jinhao/Baoer/Bookworm sort). The arrangements seem positive to me. The Chesterfield ink is attractively enough bottled that I might buy one eventually if I can figure out what color corresponds to what Diamine name. The Chinese pens are probably worth those prices as long as the site QCs them, warrants them, or both.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 04:10

So here is my guess at what each Chesterfield named ink is named in the Diamine Range:
Obsidian= Quartz black
Midnight Sapphire=Blue Black or Prussian Blue
Turquoise= Turquoise
Capri= Royal Blue or Florida Blue
Amethyst= Imperial Purple
Siam=Monaco Red
Ruby=Ruby
Emerald=Emerald, though the Chesterfield sample looks brighter than the one from the writing desk
Mahogany= Saddle Brown
Garnet= Passion Red
Smoked Topaz= Burnt Sienna
Sodalite= Indigo
Tourmaline= Umber
Fire Opal= Orange
Rose=Scarlet, a little difficult though
Cobalt=Washable Blue
Erinite= Dark Green
Zircon= Aqua Blue
Teal=Teal

Definitely neat to have Diamine widely available in 30ml, 50ml, and 80ml now, and only after making this list did I realize how many inks are in the Chesterfield/Diamine line!! I know you can sometimes get bigger qualities of ink directly from Diamine, but these three sizes are more practical for me. Anyway, just my guesses, hope they may help!


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Posted 22 April 2009 - 01:29

QUOTE (Jimmy James @ Apr 21 2009, 02:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It looks to me like this site has entered into private label agreements with Diamine and one or more of the Chinese manufacturers (those pens look like the Jinhao/Baoer/Bookworm sort). The arrangements seem positive to me. The Chesterfield ink is attractively enough bottled that I might buy one eventually if I can figure out what color corresponds to what Diamine name. The Chinese pens are probably worth those prices as long as the site QCs them, warrants them, or both.


The Chesterfield inquiry continues...

I just got three inks from XFountainPens and will be preparing reviews as soon as I can BUT I can say this now:

The color samples on the website appear to be too blue. The Night Sapphire I got is what I can best describe as "teal gray". There is a definite green component to the color (to my eyes).
The Cobalt is a nice blue but isn't as intense as I had hoped. The Sodalite is what I would call a blue-gray/black.

I've contacted the vendor to see if they have had any batch color variations in these inks. Other than what is mentioned above, flow is quite nice. Saturation is definitely on the low side. On a par with Montblanc inks, I'd say. So, therefore, shading is evident with most any nib I've tried them with.

As soon as I get a response from the vendor, I'll post my reviews/ samples.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 18:00

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 01:22

QUOTE (loweevan @ Apr 22 2009, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do the tops open like a jam/jelly jar?

Michael W., I love the avatar. I loved that show growing up (I was close enough to Ontario in Michigan that we got the CBC on cable). If a woman doesn't find you handsome, she should at least find you handy.

Yup, just like a jelly jar.

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 16:41

QUOTE (Jimmy James @ Apr 21 2009, 02:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It looks to me like this site has entered into private label agreements with Diamine and one or more of the Chinese manufacturers (those pens look like the Jinhao/Baoer/Bookworm sort). The arrangements seem positive to me. The Chesterfield ink is attractively enough bottled that I might buy one eventually if I can figure out what color corresponds to what Diamine name. The Chinese pens are probably worth those prices as long as the site QCs them, warrants them, or both.


I don't think that there is an agreement, just xFountainPens buying Diamine bulk and repackaging it. There is no way that the packaging that xFountainPens does could be sold in a US store, nothing but 'Chesterfield Ink' and the color name on the bottle. At the minimum, to sell it in the US though normal retail, they need a distributor's/manufacturer's name and an address/zip. They did pack it nicely, and wrap it securly in a heavy sealed plastic bag then wrapping it in shipping foam.

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 07:04

It looks to me like this site has entered into private label agreements with Diamine and one or more of the Chinese manufacturers (those pens look like the Jinhao/Baoer/Bookworm sort). The arrangements seem positive to me. The Chesterfield ink is attractively enough bottled that I might buy one eventually if I can figure out what color corresponds to what Diamine name. The Chinese pens are probably worth those prices as long as the site QCs them, warrants them, or both.

I purchased their x530 model pen and I am very pleased with it. Haven't had any problems and they sell replacement parts on their site for any part that would fail or ware down.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 01:57

It should be noted that it appears the Chesterfield ink has seen a price increase and a change in bottles since it was discovered. I'm not sure it's quite the same value it was.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 01:01

It should be noted that it appears the Chesterfield ink has seen a price increase and a change in bottles since it was discovered. I'm not sure it's quite the same value it was.


I noticed the price increase and I agree, it's not quite the bargain it was. Probably too many people like me ordering just enough bottles to get the free shipping.
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Posted 03 February 2011 - 15:52

I am about to place an order with xfountainpens and would appreciate some advice about equivalences between Chesterfield ink and Diamine. The old thread to which I am replying seems inconclusive regarding which Chesterfield ink corresponds to Diamine blue-black. Is it Night Sapphire or Sodalite? Also, is there any Chesterfield color that might perhaps be Diamine sepia, which I was about to buy elsewhere? Also (although this is off-topic for an ink thread - sorry), as this will be my first order from xfountainpens, I'd appreciate any advice concerning their various coupon codes and discount deals. I signed up long ago for their newsletter but have only received one mailing from them ever, just before Christmas of 2010, offering some deals that may perhaps still be active, such as a 25% discount on several specially marked pens at their site. I looked in vain for their previous offer of a free bottle of ink with orders over forty dollars, though perhaps that old discount code might still work. Does anyone have any experience regarding whether xfountainpens will honor old discount and promotional codes, and how one can obtain information on the latest active offers, since the "newsletter" apparently appears only once a year, if that. I have written to them and asked straight out for this information but they usually don't reply to these queries. A year ago I did receive a note from a customer service rep in reply to an inquiry, who said that "last week's codes would still work," though the fact "wasn't publicized." I never did get around to ordering back then, so I wonder if it might also be true that "last year's" codes might still work as well! Any guidance would be appreciated, along with advice regarding the Blue-Black and Sepia correspondences between Chesterfield and Diamine. Many thanks.

Addendum: in re-reading the thread above, I do now recall that an xfountainpens rep was quoted as saying that Chesterfield Night Sapphire is Diamine Blue-Black, but another poster characterized the Night Sapphire as "teal gray" with a green component, while characterizing the Sodalite as "blue-gray/black," which sounds more appealing. Can anyone amplify these observations?

Edited by NihilObstat, 03 February 2011 - 16:03.


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Posted 03 February 2011 - 17:25

By telephone, they confirm that all Chesterfield colors are made by Diamine. As to the color match, you would have to compare them to The Writing Desk samples. or Goulet Pen samples.
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Posted 31 May 2011 - 17:08

I recently ordered a dozen samples of Chesterfield ink from xfountainpens.com. The neck of the tiny bottles in which the samples are supplied is so narrow that only an unusually slim pen can be inserted into the bottle. Decanting the ink into some other vessel (like, say, a washed Goulet sample container, whose test-tube shape does permit the insertion of all but the fattest pens) doesn't really help very much, because the small amount of ink in the sample (which is much less generous than Goulet's samples) means that the fluid level will still not be high enough to permit much more than a light dip, because the nib cannot be inserted deeply enough to permit proper suction to be generated. That would be OK when dipping is all that is wanted, but what if one wishes actually to put ink into the pen (in order, say, to see how well the ink feeds, as opposed to merely laying down a test line to assess the color)? In the case of pens that can take cartridges, I have been reduced to the cumbersome detour of drawing the sample ink out of the tiny bottle with a syringe and transferring it to a clean empty cartridge, but in the case of pens that will not accept a cartridge, even a syringe offers no solution. I wonder if anyone else here has purchased ink samples from xfountainpens.com and encountered the same problem. If so, then I'd much appreciate any suggestions for methods I may have overlooked for actually getting the ink into a pen. I am told that xfountainpens has good customer service, and when I call them in a few days about some other aspects of a recent order I intend to mention this problem and suggest that they should consider switching to sample bottles with wider neck openings, but in the meantime I am left with a raft of samples that for some purposes are of very little use to me. Any suggestions?

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 17:30

I recently ordered a dozen samples of Chesterfield ink from xfountainpens.com. The neck of the tiny bottles in which the samples are supplied is so narrow that only an unusually slim pen can be inserted into the bottle. Decanting the ink into some other vessel (like, say, a washed Goulet sample container, whose test-tube shape does permit the insertion of all but the fattest pens) doesn't really help very much, because the small amount of ink in the sample (which is much less generous than Goulet's samples) means that the fluid level will still not be high enough to permit much more than a light dip, because the nib cannot be inserted deeply enough to permit proper suction to be generated. That would be OK when dipping is all that is wanted, but what if one wishes actually to put ink into the pen (in order, say, to see how well the ink feeds, as opposed to merely laying down a test line to assess the color)? In the case of pens that can take cartridges, I have been reduced to the cumbersome detour of drawing the sample ink out of the tiny bottle with a syringe and transferring it to a clean empty cartridge, but in the case of pens that will not accept a cartridge, even a syringe offers no solution. I wonder if anyone else here has purchased ink samples from xfountainpens.com and encountered the same problem. If so, then I'd much appreciate any suggestions for methods I may have overlooked for actually getting the ink into a pen. I am told that xfountainpens has good customer service, and when I call them in a few days about some other aspects of a recent order I intend to mention this problem and suggest that they should consider switching to sample bottles with wider neck openings, but in the meantime I am left with a raft of samples that for some purposes are of very little use to me. Any suggestions?



Take the nib off and insert the converter directly into the bottle to fill. Then replace the nib/feed onto the converter.
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Posted 31 May 2011 - 17:38

But what about pens that do not employ converters but have permanently installed filling systems? If all I wanted to do was to get some ink into a converter, I could use a syringe to transfer ink into the converter, just as I did for a cartridge, but that will not help with a pen which requires immersion in ink in order to be filled.

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 17:51

Well, yes, if you have a piston filler this won't work. I only have 2 of those and one isn't in use. Find a small glass ontainer to put the ink in. Something like a cleaned out caper jar or pimento jar might work. Or an old ink bottle if you actually have an empty one.

ETA - The Goulets sell empty sample vials if those work for you.

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