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#1 Aysedasi

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 18:03

I bought this pen on Ebay a few days ago -

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...em=140310384109

As you'll see, the seller couldn't say if it was a 220 or a 221. Personally, I wouldn't have a clue. I was attracted by the likely finishing price and the OB nib. The pen arrived today and is very nice. The nib is seriously sweet.

It had no converter, so I have a cartridge in at the moment. Do I need a Mont Blanc converter or will any other proprietary converters work in it?

Any ideas how I identify the pen definitively? I can't see any useful identifying features on the pen.

Edited by Aysedasi, 08 April 2009 - 18:04.


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Posted 08 April 2009 - 20:26

Don't worry about the converter - I've found one that fits perfectly.

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 20:52

I bet that OB writes sweetly. Got a writing sample? happyberet.gif

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 21:27

Not that I can put up yet - I'll see what I can do..... (that translates to 'Do I dare to put up some more of my dreadful handwriting.....?' wink.gif).



PS Any thoughts on the price I paid for this? It seemed extremely reasonable to me - even more so now I have the pen.

Edited by Aysedasi, 08 April 2009 - 21:28.


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Posted 10 April 2009 - 10:18

No other thoughts then?

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 10:25

QUOTE (jeen @ Apr 8 2009, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I bet that OB writes sweetly. Got a writing sample? happyberet.gif




Here you go.




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Posted 10 April 2009 - 10:53

Thanks for the scan!
I'm impressed by the variation in line thickness.
I'm imagining how nice that would look and feel on my cotton stationery. puddle.gif

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 04:31

QUOTE (Aysedasi @ Apr 9 2009, 02:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I bought this pen on Ebay a few days ago -

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...em=140310384109

As you'll see, the seller couldn't say if it was a 220 or a 221. Personally, I wouldn't have a clue. I was attracted by the likely finishing price and the OB nib. The pen arrived today and is very nice. The nib is seriously sweet.

It had no converter, so I have a cartridge in at the moment. Do I need a Mont Blanc converter or will any other proprietary converters work in it?

Any ideas how I identify the pen definitively? I can't see any useful identifying features on the pen.


This should be a 221, made between 1971-1979. I've a 220, which is a matt black finished, doing well with a Pelikan convertor.

Edited by PCS73, 12 April 2009 - 08:51.


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Posted 13 April 2009 - 18:10

QUOTE (PCS73 @ Apr 12 2009, 04:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Aysedasi @ Apr 9 2009, 02:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I bought this pen on Ebay a few days ago -

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...em=140310384109

As you'll see, the seller couldn't say if it was a 220 or a 221. Personally, I wouldn't have a clue. I was attracted by the likely finishing price and the OB nib. The pen arrived today and is very nice. The nib is seriously sweet.

It had no converter, so I have a cartridge in at the moment. Do I need a Mont Blanc converter or will any other proprietary converters work in it?

Any ideas how I identify the pen definitively? I can't see any useful identifying features on the pen.


This should be a 221, made between 1971-1979. I've a 220, which is a matt black finished, doing well with a Pelikan convertor.


Well hmm1.gif , it has flat ends, it has two cap rings and it is glossy -> so if this pen was made between 1970 and 1979 it is a Montblanc 221 and not a 220. So far I agree.
But if this pen was made after 1979 until 1987, and the engraving on the nib looks definately like it, then the Model is called Montblanc "Classic" (not Classique!) cool.gif . The "Classic" had exactly the same shape and size of the former 221.

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 13:33

Axel,

Thank you for sharing this information. It is much appreciated.

Fred


QUOTE (penparadise @ Apr 13 2009, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well hmm1.gif , it has flat ends, it has two cap rings and it is glossy -> so if this pen was made between 1970 and 1979 it is a Montblanc 221 and not a 220. So far I agree.
But if this pen was made after 1979 until 1987, and the engraving on the nib looks definately like it, then the Model is called Montblanc "Classic" (not Classique!) cool.gif . The "Classic" had exactly the same shape and size of the former 221.


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Posted 14 April 2009 - 15:53

Thanks everyone, Axel in particular. I wouldn't have a clue when the pen was made, but I have to say that I am absolutely bowled over by the nib. It is, without doubt, the nicest nib I have ever written with. Now if only I could find this type of nib in a bigger pen - but at a reasonable price, I could well finally end my FP addiction....... Hmmm, not sure if that's good or bad - although I know what SWMBO would say..... wink.gif

Edited by Aysedasi, 14 April 2009 - 15:53.


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Posted 14 April 2009 - 18:03

Modern MB Broads and wider will give you the same effect.
I suggest trying the 146 and 149 at a boutique. happyberet.gif

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 18:16

QUOTE (jeen @ Apr 14 2009, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Modern MB Broads and wider will give you the same effect.
I suggest trying the 146 and 149 at a boutique. happyberet.gif



Sounds good, but there would be no point my even going into an MB boutique, I couldn't justify that kind of expense on a pen.


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Posted 14 April 2009 - 18:27

QUOTE (Aysedasi @ Apr 14 2009, 07:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jeen @ Apr 14 2009, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Modern MB Broads and wider will give you the same effect.
I suggest trying the 146 and 149 at a boutique. happyberet.gif



Sounds good, but there would be no point my even going into an MB boutique, I couldn't justify that kind of expense on a pen.

In that case you could try it there to compare the different offerings, and if one or two are winners, you could look for them elsewhere.


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Posted 14 April 2009 - 19:42

Yep, I could for sure. Trouble is, here in the UK, as far as I know, there are no MB boutiques south of London. Some of these companies think that life begins and ends in the Capital........ wink.gif