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Classifieds Manual, Part 2 - Create A Classified

Posted by wimg , in Manuals 07 May 2011 · 1,461 views

Part 2: Create a Classified. In order to create a Classified, I first need to click on the Classifieds tab (see red arrow), which is situated just next to the Forums tab underneath the board header:Posted ImageWhen you click the Classifeds tab, the following window appears, with all the categories available for posting a classified in, Add an Item button circled in red:Posted ImageIn order to add a Classified, it doesn't really matter where I am in the Classifieds subsystem, as long as I click on the Add an Item button. A new screen appears, with all the fields to be completed in the Listing a New Item section right in the middle of the screen (red arrow):Posted ImageDo note that all of these fields have a red asterisk postioned next to them. This means they are all mandatory. In short, all fields are mandatory. If I don't complete a field, or don't tick a box, etc., when I want to save the classified, it won't let me. I'll discuss all of the fields one by one here. Do note that I didn't highlight these with red arrows; it'll get too busy, plus I do think the field names speak for themselves and are indicated in the text in bolded, italicized and red. First up is the Item Name. I think that this doesn't require any further explanation. In this example, I have chosen an Etruria to sell (note: only as an example, not for real). The next field down is the Condition of the item. I have to select one from the dropdown list, see below. Note that there is an option for items which are not pens, and one for a condition that does not fit the "standard" ones.Posted ImageNext field is the Category or subcategory where I want this item listed. Select the correct one please. First determine whether this is a Writing Instrument or parts thereof, or something else (choose appropriately). If it is parts of writing instruments, I select that option. If it is a complete pen or complete pens etc. for sale, I check either the Low Volume category if I don't intend to place more than 100 classifieds a year, with a maximum of 3 classifieds per week, otherwise I select High Volume. If I don't comply, my classified will be removed by a moderator without any form of consultation or feedback, I need to be aware of that!Note that Charity Auctions is a special case: these are only allowed for registered charities after consultation with moderators and admins, and work by a starting price where interested buyers will add a new price in a question - that will be dealt with in a separate part of the manual.Posted ImageI now have added an Item Name, have selected the Condition of the item, and have selected a Category for the item to be listed in. So far the Item Details section:Posted ImageNext up are the fields in the Shipping & Handing section, beginning with a dropdown list of the Currency used for the price (to be listed later). This list contains all currencies of the world, beginning with the currencies used most often on this board (to make selection of any of those a little faster):Posted ImageNext up is the Payment option field. Again this holds most used payment options on the board, with an additional option for other payment possibilities or combinations thereof, to be described in the text for the Description of the classified, if so required:Posted ImageThe field following this is the Shipping From field, another dropdown selection box which lists all countries of the world. Either scroll down through this and click on the correct one, or type the first letter one or more times until it appears and becomes highlighted (blue), and press the Enter key to select it.Posted ImageThe Shipping To field follows, another dropdown selection list. The selection is somewhat more limited here for obvious reasons, and also allows for an option to indicate other countries or regions, or combinations of those listed.Posted ImageThe picture below shows my selection of options so far for the item I am describing :Posted ImageOn to the next section, General rules and conditions, essentially being an implementation of the rules for market place postings on FPN. I have to tick the boxes in this section to agree with these conditions. If I don't tick these boxes, I won't be able to save this classified for listing, and if I don't agree I should not really post a classified. These fields are No PayPal Fees or Personal Payment (not allowed by PayPal), Valid Email Address on FPN, which is used to contact the seller, and Unconditional Agreement with Moderation, i.e., the Fountain Pen Network,  FPN for short, retains the right to disqualify a classified without any further discussion, discourse or communication, and remove it from public view.  BTW, one of the reasons to remove a classified is a blurry picture, from which it is impossible to tell what the condition of e.g. a pen is.Posted ImageIn the following image I have ticked the boxes in General rules and conditions, plus another one in Further item information, i.e., Image(s) of Actual Item(s), i.e., no stock images etc., and not of another item. In short, I HAVE to show an image or several images to include all items on sale here, of the actual items on sale. No urls are allowed. At least one (1) image must be viewable directly in the classified, and it also must be uploaded (attached) to the classified. The latter will be discussed a little bit further down. The next field is also displayed with its dropdown list, namely Image(s) Used. This indicates the rights I have to the images I use, and who created them and/or holds the copyright.Posted ImageNext up is the Brand and Model dropdown list, to indicate that I actually provided the brands and models of the items listed (I already did in the Item Name actually), or alternatively, that it is not a pen, with a description either in Item Name, the classified Description, or in both (in most cases anyway, I would expect).Posted ImageThe field following it is LE and/or Serial Number Info, which again is a dropdown box which indicates which information I have added (and shouldn't forget to add either). A good reminder IOW. Fortunately there also is an option for items other than pens.Posted ImageHere is the progress so far:Posted ImageNext there is the Nib Size, a field providing me with a dropdown box for the most common nib types, from XXF to 1.3 Italic, plus an option for Other(s) and of course the option to indicate I am not listing a fountain pen.Posted ImageAfter I have now selected my nib size, I can now continue with the Restoration Status. Not too many choices, one of which indicating it is not a pen we are dealing with here.Posted ImageWe are nearing the end now. First of all a Description box, with the usual editor we all well know from posting messages in the forums. Add any information about the item(s) for sale here, not only the item name, but maybe a further description. Praise your wares here, the motto goes. In addition, I can also see a few more fields, in the Pricing options section, namely Advert Type, a radio button with options For Sale and Wanted, and Price, plus an Attachments section.Posted ImageI now have added a description, left the Advert Type on For Sale (the default), and added a Price. Note that the Price is of course the number linked to the Currency I selected quite a bit higher up. Also note that if I do not add a Price, or leave it at 0 (zero), it will automatically come up with FREE in the Price field when I save this classified, which is not necessarily something I want to do for an item I want to get some money for.... In short, I should not forget to put an actual number in.Posted ImageScrolling down a bit further, I can now see the entire Attachments section. In order to attach an image here (mandatory!), I click on the Browse button (red arrow) to select one from my hard disk.Posted ImageClicking on this Browse button will bring up an explorer window, which allows me to find the image I want to attach. It first happens to come up quite conveniently with the contents of the drive where I have stored my images, but it could well be any drive or folder, which means I would have to browse a bit through my drives and folders. As it is here, I just need to select my "fs" folder (no, not "for sale", "full size" actually), see red arrow.Posted ImageAfter double-clicking on my "fs" folder I select the correct image (highlighted in light blue), and next click on the Open button (red arrow).Posted ImageThe screen reverts back to the classifieds editing screen, and in the text field box next to the Browse button it now shows the path and name of the image file I want to display in my classified. I now have to click on the Attach this file button (red arrow).Posted ImageAnd after clicking on the Attach This File button I get to see the following, essentially the same as before, but with an attached file added (red arrow, numbered 1). Do also note the Add Item button, also with a red arrow pointing to it, numbered 2. I need that in for the next step.Posted ImageAll done now, and after a final check that I did indeed complete all the fields, I now click on the Add Item button (red arrow 2, see above), which then presents me with the actual classified, with an attached thumbnail (see red arrow, below). I could have added more files this way, but for now I thought this was enough. Do note that if I forget to click on the Add Item button, and just go back to the main Classifieds screen, I lose all the information I just added so diligently! In short, I would have to start all over again....Posted ImageThe thumbnail is actually clickable, and will bring up the entire image in its full glory, as shown below. It also provides me with an option to Close it again, to return to the classified itself, or to Save the image for closer inspection, or maybe for later (see circled area and arrow, both in red). In the case of more thumbnails, it will even show a Next button towards the top right, to display the next full image I attached, for as many images as I actually did attach.Posted ImageOk, I closed it again and scrolled down a little to see how it looks like further. Note that it now shows the Price a bit larger, as wel as the remaining time for the run period for this classified. As it starts at 30 days, the first number of days this countdown timer will actually show is 29 days, which really means it is on the 29th day of the countdown (30 days minus a second, or minus more seconds). Also note the Edit Item, Close Item and Watch Item buttons. Edit Item obviously will get me back into Edit Mode, just that the fields will have the values I already supplied. The other two buttons wil be discussed in another part of this manual.Posted ImageScrolling further down I can see the remainder of the classified. Note that there now also is a Question section right at the bottom. This wil also be discussed in another part of this manual, and finally a Report button in case this classified merits reporting to the moderators, i.e., when it doesn't comply with the rules despite all the mandatory fields.Posted ImageAnd so far for the creation of a Classified. It is accomplished. :DNext steps (other parts of the manual) will be dealing with Questions, from the view point of a (potential) buyer, and from a seller's view point to, and contacting a seller for a confirmation on a deal, or a transaction.Warm regards, Wim




Hello Wim,So is it still possible to offer multiple items?According to the rules (which I have just read) it is, but multiple items will have different nib sizes, conditions and prices. In the new procedure above, one can only opt for one nib size, condition or price.Regards, Tim
Great, great job on this guys!!! I looks so good! I can't wait to sell something just so I can try it out!:embarrassed_smile: Posted ImageRegards,777
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Ravenmoon
May 08 2011 17:32

Hello Wim,So is it still possible to offer multiple items?According to the rules (which I have just read) it is, but multiple items will have different nib sizes, conditions and prices. In the new procedure above, one can only opt for one nib size, condition or price.Regards, Tim

This is my question as well. I just posted several items, with three group photos, and I can't seem to see any way to list groups of items.

Hello Wim,So is it still possible to offer multiple items?According to the rules (which I have just read) it is, but multiple items will have different nib sizes, conditions and prices. In the new procedure above, one can only opt for one nib size, condition or price.Regards, Tim

This is my question as well. I just posted several items, with three group photos, and I can't seem to see any way to list groups of items.

Yes, you still can offer multiple items.We suggest you use your imagination to resolve this. One possibility may be to describe one pen, maybe the most expensive one, by means of the options to be selected, and continue to describe all others in the actual advert message, using a similar setup as the actual options.If you think this could still lead to confusion, you can always fall back on one item per classified, but, as mentioned, that isn't necessary, as long as you indicate all of the options required, and attach or display images of all items listed.HTH, warm regards, Wim

Great, great job on this guys!!! I looks so good! I can't wait to sell something just so I can try it out!:thumbup: Posted ImageRegards,777

Thank you!Warm regards, Wim :D

Hello Wim,So is it still possible to offer multiple items?According to the rules (which I have just read) it is, but multiple items will have different nib sizes, conditions and prices. In the new procedure above, one can only opt for one nib size, condition or price.Regards, Tim

Hi Tim, see my reply to Ravenmoon, please :thumbup:.Warm regards, Wim
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bunglebear
May 09 2011 13:08
superb job - dread to think how many coffee's went into that!will be trying it out very soon

Hello Wim,So is it still possible to offer multiple items?According to the rules (which I have just read) it is, but multiple items will have different nib sizes, conditions and prices. In the new procedure above, one can only opt for one nib size, condition or price.Regards, Tim

Hi Tim, see my reply to Ravenmoon, please :thumbup:.Warm regards, Wim

Dank je, Wim!

superb job - dread to think how many coffee's went into that!will be trying it out very soon

You don't want to know :D.Warm regards, Wim :thumbup:

Hello Wim,So is it still possible to offer multiple items?According to the rules (which I have just read) it is, but multiple items will have different nib sizes, conditions and prices. In the new procedure above, one can only opt for one nib size, condition or price.Regards, Tim

Hi Tim, see my reply to Ravenmoon, please :thumbup:.Warm regards, Wim

Dank je, Wim!

Graag gedaan, Tim!Groetjes, Wim
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Tom Heath
May 10 2011 15:23
I guess now this gray head must go and get a college degree to sell a pen.You have made a very simple straight forward process seem very difficultand naturally time consuming.I am sure the younger generation will gladly see the merits in all the details.Nothing like thinking you have it all covered and press submit to find all the work you just entered is forever lost.Tom Heath
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Apotheosis
May 11 2011 15:28
Whoa..this looks amazing..cant wait to give this a go !!
I could not see a "Wanted to Buy" section. Please advise.

I guess now this gray head must go and get a college degree to sell a pen.You have made a very simple straight forward process seem very difficultand naturally time consuming.I am sure the younger generation will gladly see the merits in all the details.Nothing like thinking you have it all covered and press submit to find all the work you just entered is forever lost.Tom Heath

Just work through it from top to bottom, and you'll be fine.BTW, those details were required in the old setup too,just that you had to make sure yourself they were all in there. The system now assists you in making sure they are present.Warm regards, WIm

Whoa..this looks amazing..cant wait to give this a go !!

Thanks!Warm regards, Wim

I could not see a "Wanted to Buy" section. Please advise.

There is a radio button at the bottom of the screen when creating a classified, with the options For Sale and Wanted. IOW, you can use a classified for this purpose. As to the required image, either use one of the object you are looking for that you are allowed to use legitimately, or use a brand logo, or even add a scanned in drawing you made yourself.Furthermore, you can add WTB in the tile, which makes it very clear on the listings page too.If you want to read more about this, and mayeb get a few more suggestions, I suggest you read some of the topics in the Community Feedback forum on this subject.HTH, warm regards, Wim
Thanks a lot for all your work you have done for the community! Being a computer-idiot, I can't apreciate enough what you have done. Thanks again.Just two questions:1. Wouldn't it be easier for buyers to see the currency with the price in the overview? like $150, £100 etc...?2. Browsing throuhg a sale with many pictures is time consuming because you have to click on every thumbnail and then go back again. I know, you wrote that url are not allowed, but is there a possibility to show the pictures in the description directly?Thanks again and Best RegardsChristof
Hi Christof,

Thanks a lot for all your work you have done for the community! Being a computer-idiot, I can't apreciate enough what you have done. Thanks again.

Thank you for your kind words, much appreciated!

Just two questions:1. Wouldn't it be easier for buyers to see the currency with the price in the overview? like $150, £100 etc...?

Yes. However, the current version of Classifieds only caters for a single currency in front of the price, which is why we opted for the custom field and left currency out. However, we are working on this. I can't give you an ETA, however.

2. Browsing throuhg a sale with many pictures is time consuming because you have to click on every thumbnail and then go back again. I know, you wrote that url are not allowed, but is there a possibility to show the pictures in the description directly?

Yes, there is, as indicated here and there (and in the manual too). One only needs to attach 1 picture, that is mandatory (and is required to create the thumbnail in the listing itself), and everything else can be added by inserting pictures (Insert Image button in the message body editor, or by copying BB-codes from, e.g., Upload).However, having said that, if you scroll upwards in an expanded picture, you will get a "Next" button, as indicated in the manual on browsing Classifieds. Clicking that button will display the next thumbnail in expanded format straight away.

Thanks again and Best RegardsChristof

HTH, warm regards, Wim
Thanks a lot for your help, Wim.Christof

Thanks a lot for your help, Wim.Christof

It's a pleasure, Christof!Warm regards, Wim

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